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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here-thank you for all the information. I guess not being a swimmer myself I didn't really understand that all the swim team practicing would not help them without outside lessons as well. I guess they were just practicing every day the wrong way. The team has a lot of coaches but also a lot of kids. My younger child could care less but my older one is competitive and would be frustrated not seeing her time get faster after the meets. 
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It took us two seasons to figure things out. I also had a frustrated almost 10 year old who was ready to quit last summer. We invested in a real winter swim program last year and saw a huge difference this summer. He just needed someone to teach him the technique, which doesn't happen during summer swim practice. The good winter swim programs are expensive, but you can almost guarantee that all the top summer ladder kids in the NVSL pools are doing Machine, AAC, York, etc. during the winter. At our pool, we also noticed that the coaches spent more time with the A meet kids and pretty much assumed the B meet kids were just there for fun so they got almost no coaching. When my son started to make A meet times this summer, he was suddenly getting more instruction during practice. That fact still annoys me because all families pay the same fees for the summer swim team, but it is the reality at most pools. The coaches focus on winning the A meets, not what happens at B meets.[/quote]

which winter one did you do where you thought you got real stroke instruction?   And how many days were you in the water? I keep on getting ready to pull the trigger on a more expensive winter swim, and then hear someone say that there are like 10 kids in a lane with teenage coaches doing laps.  I can get that much cheaper through some of the pool 1 day a week winter swim programs?[/quote]

Try the Stroke Mechanics program through Machine Swim. It is one day a week (Sept-May) and focuses on technique and getting the kids legal in all four strokes before the summer swim season. They taught my 9 yo Fly and flip turns, and got him legal in Breast last winter. We are in an mid-tier NVSL pool and he swam A meets all summer, after not making a single A meet last year. He's certainly not Olympic material, but he had a much better experience in summer swim this year when he wasn't DQing at every B meet. At least in our Machine class, it ranged from 5-6 kids in a lane and they definitely got good instruction. Remember that some of it is on your kid though to take it seriously-- do they listen and incorporate the coaching into their stroke, or are they goofing around with their head under the water when the coach is talking?

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Arent they in Vienna ? [/quote]

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