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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]this may shock you but there's not a single "SJW agenda." Different people had different priorities. In my opinion, if we had more integrated neighborhoods, neighborhood schools would be more equitable. Since we don't, and since DCPS wouldn't be able to affect neighborhood integration, school boundary and assignment processes have to reflect the city as it actually is, not as we wish it would be. That means giving an[b] at-risk preference for OOB seats. [/b]I also support ending OOB feeder rights since I think they hurt schools with less desirable feeder patterns by encouraging families to look elsewhere even if they are currently happy with their IB school. I also think they're unfair to kids who move to DC after the early grades.[/quote] Totally unworkable where DCPS programs are over capacity. Where are these OOB seats? There are hardly any left in a dozen schools. Maintaining OOB seats in overcrowded schools just fuels resentment on the part of IB parents. Our EotP school was built for 325 but has nearly 500 students (85% in-boundary) and really no room for trailers on a tiny campus. If DC didn't want a by-right schools system, they should have ditched the arrangement a long time ago, like San Fran and Boston did in the 70s. It's not DC middle-class parents fault that a by-right school system survived forced busing in other cities. [/quote] It's not unworkable. If your school is offering too many [b]OOB seats that's a separate problem from who the offered seats go to. [/b]Even if there are just a tiny number of seats offered at some schools (Deal and its feeders did made some OOB offers this year) I have no problem with them going first to at-risk kids. Same with schools like Stuart-Hobson, Seaton, Garrison, Marie Reed, SWW@F-S, Ludlow-Taylor, or Watkins (all majority OOB but growing in popularity). At many of the schools in DCPS an at-risk preference is not going to cause any problem because nearly all the kids who lottery in are at-risk or because there are enough OOB seats to accommodate anyone who applies in the lottery.[/quote] Come on, enough pie in the sky, PP in a city where seats in high-performing schools are scarce. The two problems can't be separated and at-risk kids pretty clearly belong in schools set up to serve needy kids, vs. schools serving hundreds of UMC students. The at-risk kids in my children's classes at a school with an at-risk rate in the single digits are mostly in-boundary students whose school situation doesn't look all that great to me. They suck up teachers energy and attention in a program poorly set up to meet their needs, creating resentment on the part of parents and, frankly, upper grades classmates. The upper grades at-risk kids tend to be so far behind most other students, who commonly work above grade level, that their school days can't be smooth sailing. Sadly, they are objects of derision. They attend school with kids with expensive uniforms, bikes, backpacks and so forth who take fancy vacations and attend pricey summer camps needy kids don't have access to, which can't be easy for them. It looks to me like they'd be better off in a program offering extended day, full-year schooling, more serious and appropriate counseling supports, wrap-around services for their families etc. etc. A group of at-risk OOB students who don't even live nearby would be even worse off. [/quote] Wow, this post manages to marry concern trolling with an explicit call for segregation. Gross. [/quote] Not the PP you're slamming. I like posts that present the unvarnished truth about schools that have become heavily UMC quickly, however inconvenient and non PC the sentiments expressed might be. There's no denying that poor kids are doing a lot better collectively in KIPP type charters than in traditional public schools. This issue isn't race, it's class in a city with vast income disparities. Unless DCPS is willing to get more adults in the buildings and to pay for extended day and year options for poor kids in traditional public schools with support from the teachers union (not happening) these problems, and solutions, are real. You can pretend they aren't real to suit your politics, PP, without anybody benefiting.[/quote]
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