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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here is my issue with the CTCL organization: Its board is made up of mostly of reps from the schools it promotes. Its income consists of membership (marketing) fees from the schools it promotes. As a non-profit organization, its “services” consist of paying one person to go around the country and promote these schools. There is nothing amazingly different about most of these schools from the hundreds of other schools out there. Some are quite good but many are struggling financially and there are many with horrible graduation rates. Schools should be considered on an individual basis, not because they are part of an irrelevant list. [/quote]

+1.  CTCL feeds into the insecurity of parents whose kids can't get into Tier 1.[/quote]

[b]Another way to look at this: it lets people know there are more than 20 good colleges on the planet.[/quote][/b]

It's just a marketing gimmick now[/quote]

All schools market themselves.  [b]Why hate on this small group?[/b]  Their message is:  We are great colleges that are easier to get into and possibly far less money, and we will still position your kid for success.[/quote]

Because they're NOT a small group at all.  They're separate institutions with nothing in common other than that they're all small schools and in the same book.  That doesn't make them special.  [/quote]

From the website:

[i]CTCL is [b]dedicated to the advancement and support of a student-centered college search process[/b].

The Colleges That Change Lives, Inc. (CTCL) story begins in 1996 when a book by the same name — Colleges That Change Lives — was published by retired New York Times education editor and journalist Loren Pope. A longtime student advocate and independent college counselor, [b]Mr. Pope sought to change the way people thought about colleges by dispelling popularly held myths and challenging the conventional wisdom about college choice. His groundbreaking ideals were welcomed by students and the college counseling community alike. As a result, many of the colleges featured in the book began working together to further promote this philosophy of a student-centered college search[/b]. [/i]

Doesn't sound like they claim they are special.  Sounds like they claim they are right for some kids and all the other college search materials focus on rankings and the like.  That's a weird thing to hate IMHO.
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Yes - this poster has an ax to grind for some reason with these schools. Not sure why she picks on them or their marketing. A number of schools group themselves together and go on the road to market themselves when they feel there's a similar audience. [b]We just recently went to "8 of the Best" which consisted of Kenyon, Grinnell, Sarah Lawrence, and some others.[/b][/quote]

The difference is that they ARE "8 of the best."  CTCL are not.[/quote]

That's why it's not the CTCL slogan. [/quote]

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