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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This article isn’t about spreading around the wealth to smaller cities. It’s about seemingly “liberal” people routinely blocking proposals to change zoning laws to allow affordable housing - which brings the diversity they tell everyone they love - to their own neighborhoods.

This is why you shouldn’t judge rich liberals by what they say, but what they do. There are a lot of people out here calling Trump a racist that spend millions of dollars to live in rich, mostly white enclaves and do everything they can to keep their DCs away from schools with large populations of minority, low SES kids. They claim to love diversity, but do everything to avoid and fight it in their own lives.[/quote]

Correction: they love the *right* kind of diversity. Obama as your neighbor? Fabulous. [b]Working class white family that goes hunting on the weekend? Oh, god no!

[/b]We keep getting these posters claiming that they can't move to smaller cities because of jobs and I'm always puzzled because most smaller American cities are doing just fine. Jobs isn't the point of the article. It's really about a handful of certain cities becoming unaffordable, and yep, it's because it's very difficult to build large scale new housing to keep up with the demand, and a large part of that is due to NIMBYISM. IF DC was allowed to achieve the density of New York, it'd become a lot more affordable. But try demolishing blocks of historic rowhouses for tower blocks you only get angry screeches and protests. [/quote]

Do you ever hang out with working class white families who hunt? They have zero desire to live in small, expensive, urban areas. They want land and privacy.

I like people who are working class and hunt. I'm happy to have them as my neighbors. But they do not proactively live in diverse urban communities. That's not their vibe. [/quote]

Plenty of working class whites in inner suburbs of most cities. Take a trek up to Baltimore. Many go hunting on weekends. They drive out to Western Maryland.

The sneering Bethesda people would never condescend to live next to a hunting, fishing, shooting working class family because they're probably also Trump supporters. [/quote]

I live in a Bethesda neighborhood, they are all DEMOCRATS!  No hate lives here signs are all over their lawns and they wallow in taking their young daughters to whatever cause is the latest rally.  Bethesda is predominantly Democrat.[/quote]

The political picture is much more nuanced than you're stating. There are plenty of conservatives and moderates in Bethesda, my family included.

The fact of the matter is that the Chevy Chase Club (and village of CC) are some of the prime anti-development backers in the county. They use lawsuits to gum up the up-zoning process and to move forward on the Purple Line. They've donated heavily to politicians to stop development anywhere near the Village of CC. Do you really think the CCC is a bastion of liberal Democrats?

A lot of conservatives are registered as Democrats simply so they have a say in the Dem primary. The Republican party is dead in MoCo because the national GOP is a complete extremist freakshow.[/quote]

There's a lot more to MoCo than the Chevy Chase Club and Chevy Chase. Is the Chevy Chase Club in Bethesda?

All I see are more excuses for the failures of Democrats to live up to what they are supposed to be in theory, because at the end of the day most Democrats are just as selfish, cold-hearted and greedy as Republicans. [b]At least the Republicans aren't so hypocritical about it. Because they are supposed to be selfish and greedy.[/b] Some of you just can't stand the idea that liberal Democratic voters can be bad. [/quote]

This isn't something to aspire to. I'm not sure why you're acting like it is. Am I supposed to be impressed that Republicans are "greedy and selfish"? I'm not. Are you saying we should all strive for greed and selfishness? In my opinion, that destroys communities. I care about my community. Do you?

Let me burst your logical fallacy: no Democrats are perfect. We are all imperfect. In fact, this is a concept that is taught in the major religions - this idea that we are fallible, but can strive for improvement. Ideals are just that: ideals.

Democrats are trying to improve the situation, but there's a lot of elements out of the control of politicians. Demand is surging faster than supply. The wheels of democracy grind slowly as laws and policies are challenged by incumbents.

If we were like China, the government could just suddenly show up one day to Chevy Chase with bulldozers and kick out the existing home owners to build apartments. But we are not China.

So what are YOUR solutions?[/quote]

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