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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I adore the Old Testament as history and literature. It's all right there: the greatest story ever told, and certainly a foundational text of western civilization.  And, yes, it contains descriptions of actions that one may deem "immoral," but the book isn't immoral.[/quote]

Agreed, it's only immoral if presented as a modern guide to morality.   It's a book of stories from antiquity.  Some stories have moral guidance (for those times) and/or factual information in them, some don't, like an other story.[/quote]

A pastor recently said, "The Bible is the Word of God, not the words of God."  The Bible isn't a unitary document, it's a collection of different books written at different times in different styles--poetry, proverbs, prophecy, allegory, rules, history, etc.  Parts of it contradict other parts--heck, there are two creation stories!  I don't think it CAN be taken literally in any meaningful way.  The OT is, fundamentally, the story of God's relationship with the Israelites, and the NT is, fundamentally, about the expansion of that relationship to all people through the person of Jesus Christ.  But the people that wrote those books were limited--they were from a specific time and place and culture, they had their own blind spots and prejudices, and while they may have been divinely inspired, they were not divinely possessed.

People like the OP are not different from people who wield clobber verses--they are just playing a game, and it's a stupid game.  [/quote]

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