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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's interesting--this is a case where another public school (University of Pittsburgh) than the flagship (Penn State) has higher academics -- Pitt's average SAT is about 100 points higher than PSU and has much higher average GPA.  I wonder how much this shift is happening with kids going to stronger academic hs in metro areas wanting to stay in metro areas (where jobs, internships and broader cultural activities are) rather than where the traditional land grant flagships are in more isolated locations/college towns?[/quote]
Pitt: 1280-1420 middle 50%
PSU: 1250-1450 middle 50%

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PP:  Where did you get your data?
I was basing mine from each school's 2017-2018 Common data set, which shows Pitt a good deal higher:
PSU University Park: 580-660 Critical Reading, 580-680 Math  GPA 3.58

Pitt, Pittsburgh: 620-700, Critical Reading,  620-720  Math, GPA  4.03

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https://admissions.psu.edu/apply/statistics/
https://oafa.pitt.edu/explore/class-profile/

These are admitted students; common data set looks at enrolled students. I wouldn't consider 40 points &quot;a good deal higher&quot;.

Also, trying to compare weighted GPA with unweighted doesn't tell you much.[/quote]

Well, enrolled students are what counts. And it's 80 points of total SAT score which does seem a &quot;good deal higher&quot; (though not quite 100 points as I first thought offhand).   If you compare this to national percentiles Penn State's 25th percentile mark is at 67% whereas Pitt's is at 80%.  That's fairly different to me .And since the GPAs are both drawn from the Common Data Set for PA, they might both be reporting weighted--I don't know--but even so &gt;.5 average difference is meaningful.  I don't have a horse in this race--I didn't go to either school nor are any of my kids--just found it interesting and wondered if it was pointing to a trend towards more urban schools.[/quote]

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