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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can't get over how many people say, "The Bible is clear" on the topic of homosexuality.  It's not.  The words used to describe "homosexuality" didn't mean homosexuality as we know it.  That term did not exist.  The context and emphasis is much more about sexual immorality and 'excess.' During this time, it was common for men (mostly married) to take younger boys as additional lovers and this was a not a reciprocal arrangement.  You can see this custom has survived in Afghanistan.  Now that is truly evil.  Prudish men who think homosexuality is "gross" have deliberately misinterpreted the Bible for hundreds of years and have pulled the wool over all the non-welcoming churches.  It gives them power to convince their flock that they are being "strong" and are morally superior because they are the only ones willing to stand up for the "truth."  This whole thing is probably a test from God to see who took his exhortation to love your neighbors as yourself seriously or if the sense of superiority was just too strong.  Sadly, we're failing this test as a religion...[/quote]

Yes the Bible never uses the word “homosexuality” Yet Romans 1:27 says that the “men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.” What else do you think this means? How much do you have to stretch the meaning of this to determine that it’s has NOTHING to do with homosexuality? What do you think the phrase “men having relations with other men” means? This isn’t some morally superior thing. We are literally just reading what it says.

Yes, God said love your neighbor as yourself. Do you know what love is? It isn’t always telling someone that everything they are doing is right. Why do parents discipline their children? Out of love. Do children like being disciplined? Not necessarily. But it’s good for them. If you truly loved someone, you would tell them the truth, even if it hurts.[/quote]

Again - context matters. [b] This verse almost certainly is talking about heterosexual, married men who choose to have extra-marital sexual relations with other men.[/b]  Of course, this is considered a sin - God is not a fan of sexual relations outside of marriage.  There is nothing in this verse about committed same-sex relationships.  [/quote]

How do you know what the verse was "almost certainly" talking about?  And why would the verse need to be written in this way?  Adultery was very clearly a sin and wouldn't the verse be something like "adultery is always wrong?"  It seems that the act of men with men was also wrong, in addition to prostitution and adultery.[/quote]

Because they didn't think letting their sexual urges out with another man outside the confines of their heterosexual marriage was adultery which they defined as sleeping with another woman.  The Bible clarifies that is also not allowed.  This was a thing - an historic thing verified outside the Bible that married, heterosexual men would have sex with young men and they thought it was okay.  This does not refer to the committed same sex marriages that many Christians accept as fully acceptable in terms of what the Bible says about sexual relationships.[/quote]

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