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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I got the impression from the article that men were having a lot less sex in communist countries. If you got rid of a lot of the truly awful sex that women often put up with because they're dependent on a particular man for financial support, then there could still be a lot of bad sex and struggles while *still* being better than what women were going through in non-communist countries where women were slower to get even the nominal rights that women had in the communist countries. [/quote] Look both man and women put up with bad sex. So just stop with all women put up with bad sex and men do not. The issue with this study is East Germany was a totalitarian state. The people there knew what answer you were supposed to give when asked. If someone was asking questions, they worked for the state. Even after unification, this bias would still be there. Also the Soviet Union/ communism in the block states was not a paradise for women or men. If a low level party official or secret police agent saw a woman he wanted, he would take that woman. This man was a member of the Politburo. [quote]At Beria's trial in 1953, it became known that he had committed numerous rapes during the years he was NKVD chief.[24] Simon Sebag-Montefiore, a biographer of Stalin, concluded the information "reveals a sexual predator who used his power to indulge himself in obsessive depravity."[25][26] His case files in the Soviet archives contained the official testimony from Colonel Rafael Semyonovich Sarkisov and Colonel Sardion Nikolaevich Nadaraia, two of Beria's most senior NKVD bodyguards. They stated that, on warm nights during the war years, Beria was often driven slowly through the streets of Moscow in his armored Packard limousine. He would point out young women to be detained and escorted to his mansion, where wine and a feast awaited them. After dining, Beria would take the women into his soundproofed office and rape them. Beria's bodyguards reported that their duties included handing each victim a flower bouquet as she left Beria's house. Accepting it implied that the sex had been consensual; refusal would mean arrest. In one incident, his chief bodyguard, Sarkisov, reported that a woman who had been brought to Beria rejected his advances and ran out of his office; Sarkisov mistakenly handed her the flowers anyway, prompting the enraged Beria to declare, "Now it's not a bouquet, it's a wreath! May it rot on your grave!" The NKVD arrested the woman the next day.[25] Women also submitted to Beria's sexual advances in exchange for the promise of freeing their relatives from the Gulag. In one case, Beria picked up Tatiana Okunevskaya, a well-known Soviet actress, under the pretence of bringing her to perform for the Politburo. Instead he took her to his dacha, where he offered to free her father and grandmother from NKVD prison if she submitted. He then raped her, telling her: "Scream or not, it doesn't matter."[27] Beria, however, already knew that her relatives had been executed months earlier. Okunevskaya was arrested shortly afterwards and sentenced to solitary confinement in the Gulag, which she survived.[/quote] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavrentiy_Beria[/quote]
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