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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]While he needs a firm and strong punishment for the vandalism and stealing he needs an equally strong punishment for lying. To me that is far worse than the initial offense and it would take many many many months of NO lying for me to even think about trusting again. 
He needs a punishment for the crime and then add on more time for the lying. That way he realizes he could have gotten off in 4 weeks and paying back the damage, but now he is stuck for another 4 weeks of doing nothing for lying (or something like that).

Trust is everything and should be treated like currency. He is currently bankrupt and i would let him know that. Computer in his room? Nope can't be trusted. Phone use? Nope, can't be trusted. Going out with friends? Nope, can't be trusted. Period.

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I agree that the lying is just as bad as the original offenses (i.e. VERY bad). Another thing that I haven't seen mentioned much in the thread is the feeling of being violated that the neighbor must feel. It's not the same as if the kids vandalized a billboard on public property or stole from a store. Those things are very bad, but when you trespass onto someone's property and commit crimes against those people, you are really sinking to a new low. It's a really unsettling feeling, being burgled when you think you are in your home, your "safe place" and that things are secure. She might no longer feel at peace there. It may stress her out to see the family next door. The fact that the mom seriously thinks that it's a good idea to suggest that her boy go over to the neighbor and spend time there shows a real lack of empathy.

There's honestly just so much wrong with what the kid did, and how the mom is (not) dealing with it, that it makes me sad. I feel bad for the neighbor. It sucks that there had to be an innocent victim and that the kid couldn't have just violated his own parents.[/quote]

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