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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What annoyed me more than the oppression of women and such was that when they wanted out that NY courts did not assist. They wanted the children of divorce to stay in the same environment. That's insane. It's like telling the kids of two abusive parents that since it's all they've known that they need to keep being abused.

The city and the state seemed to be failing this society. And how do they get around minimum schooling requirements?[/quote]

This I agree with. We have a struggle in our country between individual rights and the rights of parents and religious freedom. I think it is a big problem that we don't consider it a RIGHT for children to know their first amendment rights, their rights to a free, secular education, and any other rights that their parents are withholding from them.

As for the schooling requirements, they are going to school. It's just purely religious instruction. We have no basic national standards in this country.[/quote]

But arent their state standards for schooling? I had to pass exams and state tests every 3 years of so. I also had to have math, English, science, history and a foreign language to graduate. I believe the boy on there couldn't do basic math and he was over 20. I went to a private Christian school, so I do understand religious teaching, but how can the state let that be all there is?

Also, I was wondering what jobs the men got? I understand the welfare fraud but the men seem to have jobs and I don't know how they could get any jobs as they're uneducated. [/quote]

Most of the men work in religious jobs (bus drivers for their schools) or they own businesses (more tax fraud).. they don't ACTUALLY WORK in AMERICAN COMPANIES. In Rockland county, NY they took over the school board, and then sold public properties to themselves at VERY discounted prices. They took NY state funds for computers in the schools (google Hasidic Jews and Rockland county or Tom's River, NJ.)  NYS public money was given to the public schools for technology. But when NYS regulators visited the public schools, guess what ? NO computers, AT ALL. The Hasids said they sent them "home" with students. Which is just one reason NYS took over the public school district and why in Orange County, New York, NYS allowed them to build their own town. They also make money by suing towns all over NJ, near the Rockland border, claiming they are being "persecuted" because towns do not want eruvs on public posts or Hasidic Jews in NJ town parks. The NJ town parks have only been for those specific town residents NOT out of towners for DECADES, because local taxes paid for the parks. (The Hasidic Jews bring school buses to use these small parks, and town residents can not even get into them because of overcrowding) My AA friend in Chestnut Ridge was FORCED to move because DH worked from home and Hasidic Jews would knock on the door 30-40 times PER DAY asking them to sell, FOR MONTHS and the Hasidic Jews would walk around their house, LOOKING INTO THE WINDOWS. When they complained to authorities, they were told there was nothing that could be done. (The Hasidic Jews paid off many authorities in town, some of whom were convicted of accepting bribes (google it) Btw when they sold, they were required to use a Hasidic realtor (all other realtors were driven out of town). At closing, after my friend bought another house, her Hasidic buyers (who held up the first closing on my friend's house but assured her they would close a few days later) came to the 2nd closing with $50k less than they agreed in the contract & said that's all they had, take it or leave it. She felt forced to take it because she was the owner of 2 houses. If you ask around, you will here many similar stories (and worse) [/quote]

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