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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]PS to above:

Sometimes calories are also an issue. Maybe not for competitive athletes, but they certainly can add up.

Ounce for ounce, skim milk has about the same calories as regular Coke.

12 oz can of CocaCola = 140 kcal
12oz of skim milk = about 135 kcal[/quote]

So to avoid getting fat, teens should live on what? Diet coke and vitamins, maybe some celery for a treat?

Skim milk has calcium, protein, Vitamins A and D.  Organic goats milk may not have A and D added, and it may not be skim.  Nonetheless the protein and possible fat in  milk will contribute to satiety in a way that Coca Cola won't.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21335996/

There's a reason why Dairy is listed as a food group.  There are necessary nutrients found in dairy products (yes, they can be found in alternative sources, but it's harder).  I have yet to see a nutritional guideline with a CocaCola food group.

I agree that Americans (including myself) have a weight problem and that this problem extends into the teen population.  The answer is to eat sensibly (more nutrition rich foods, fewer EMPTY calories), eat less (satisfy hunger, not appetite), and be more active.  If your teen is overweight, then take away her Coca Cola.  Take away  french fries and chocolate.  But to limit skim milk as a diet strategy seems not only counterproductive, but generally unhealthy.[/quote]

I am the person you quoted, and I cannot tell what you are arguing against. "[b]Sometimes[/b] calories are an issue." Yes, for some kids, they are. Not for other kids. (?)

I still have to see you or anyone else respond to the anemia issue, unless I missed it. It's a known potential consequence of too high a dairy intake, and the AAP has identified anemia as a growing problem for teenagers.

I'm not against milk. I am against the idea that drinking excessive amounts can't hurt you. That's because it's my job to talk about these things with families.[/quote]

I was the 12/3/17 13:00 poster.

I was arguing against using calorie content to determine diet.  The fact that skim milk and Coca-cola have similar calorie content does not mean that they are nutritionally equivalent or will even have the same effect on somebody's weight.  My argument is that calorie content should not be the primary focus when making dietary decisions for anyone, especially a growing child/teen, regardless of whether or not they are competitive athletes.

I've heard of too many diets that are so focused on calorie reduction that they ignore the complex nutritional needs people have.  While these diets may result in temporary weight loss, I don't think anyone would argue that they are healthy, long-term options.  I think applying this type of calorie-counting focus to your average teenager would be disastrous, both to their physical and emotional (body-image) health.

I did not address the anemia issue because it was a separate post than the one I quoted.  The topic is one I am hadn't heard before and thus felt unqualified to argue either for or against the position you advanced.  I do find it very interesting.  As a heavy milk drinker who tends to run borderline anemic, I do feel it may have personal relevance and intend to explore the subject further.  I appreciate the information.

I agree that consuming excessive amounts of anything can be bad for you.  I simply feel that calorie content (except where weight is at medically unhealthy levels and a doctor prescribes specific dietary changes) should not be the determining factor in consuming an otherwise nutritionally beneficial food.  [/quote]

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