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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't know, that's tough.

Say it's Williams and Harvard or Williams and Yale or Williams and Princeton. ([b]Williams being the only LAC that is competitive with the ivies[/b]).

Who in their right mind would choose Williams over Harvard, Yale, or Princeton? A degree from any of the latter can set you up for life. (fwiw I went to Cornell and I still find it helpful all these years later and Cornell is considered a "lower" ivy).

Williams is a GREAT school, don't get me wrong. But graduating from there, you're in for a lifetime of "where?" It's not like being able to drop the H bomb.[/quote]

A 15% acceptance rate was mentioned. That means five schools: Williams, Pomona, Amherst, Bowdoin, and Swarthmore. All five of those schools are considered the equivalent of the non-HYP Ivies, with plenty of students annually turning one or several down to go to them. [b]Of course they aren't going to compare to HYP[/b]. But who can count on getting into one of those three?

But they do compare to the non-HYPs. According to the top feeder schools into grad school from a 2003 survey, they are right alongside the Ivies (HYP = 1, 2, 3, Williams = 5, Dartmouth = 7, Amherst = 9, Swarthmore = 10, Columbia = 11, Brown = 12, Pomona = 13, Penn = 16, Bowdoin = 19, Cornell = 25). On a size adjusted basis, they outperform the non HYP Ivies for fellowships won by students. According to PayScale, the mid-career salaries of alumni at those LACs at least beats one of the Ivies, and they all rank within the top 50 nationally.

In essence, having a golden entry to one of them is a big deal. You're definitely not giving them the credit that their results merit. 
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+1.  Williams is known as the Little Harvard.  During an admitted students session, there were a number of kids favouring Williams over HYP.  They do compare.  No Williams connection on my part.[/quote]

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