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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't know, that's tough.

Say it's Williams and Harvard or Williams and Yale or Williams and Princeton. ([b]Williams being the only LAC that is competitive with the ivies[/b]).

Who in their right mind would choose Williams over Harvard, Yale, or Princeton? A degree from any of the latter can set you up for life. (fwiw I went to Cornell and I still find it helpful all these years later and Cornell is considered a "lower" ivy).

Williams is a GREAT school, don't get me wrong. But graduating from there, you're in for a lifetime of "where?" It's not like being able to drop the H bomb.[/quote]

A 15% acceptance rate was mentioned. That means five schools: Williams, Pomona, Amherst, Bowdoin, and Swarthmore. All five of those schools are considered the equivalent of the non-HYP Ivies, with plenty of students annually turning one or several down to go to them. Of course they aren't going to compare to HYP. But who can count on getting into one of those three?

But they do compare to the non-HYPs. According to the top feeder schools into grad school from a 2003 survey, they are right alongside the Ivies (HYP = 1, 2, 3, Williams = 5, Dartmouth = 7, Amherst = 9, Swarthmore = 10, Columbia = 11, Brown = 12, Pomona = 13, Penn = 16, Bowdoin = 19, Cornell = 25). On a size adjusted basis, they outperform the non HYP Ivies for fellowships won by students. According to PayScale, the mid-career salaries of alumni at those LACs at least beats one of the Ivies, and they all rank within the top 50 nationally.

In essence, having a golden entry to one of them is a big deal. You're definitely not giving them the credit that their results merit. 
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