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[quote=Anonymous]I forgot to add, every kid, mine included, gets put on a team. It just might not be the team with your next door neighbor and your three classmates and your two best friends.  It might be a team where he has one kid he knows, or no kids he knows.

That isn't really so bad though. My older kid's very best teams were a team where he knew no kids going into it, and a team where he knew several kids from being on blended teams from AA through majors, but which had no other kids from our school and only one other kid from our neighborhood that he doesn't socialize with since they are three ysars apart.

I do not have an issue with the kids ending up on teams where they have no school mates. That is a very positive thing if done correctly. I actually prefer this.

I do have an issue with teams continuing with almost all kids from one school or neighborhood where a few kids get left out. That stinks because the kids feel unwanted.

[quote=Anonymous]You completely misread my post.

I said that what happened with my oldest kid (now middle school) is what usually happens in the draft from AA and up. Coaches are going for the best team so tye teams usually end up blended from several elementary schools. For example, his last season team had kids from seven or eight different schools.  He has only had one team since he started draft pevels that was mostly from one school, and they had 7-8 kids from one school and the rest from other schools, so there were still five school represented.

With my other son, there seems to be a few coaches who are still drafting only neighborhood kids. It has continued through AAA so I suspect it will continue through majors as well. I do not like that way but they are the ones who stepped up to volunteer so they can draft who they want.  The team still ends up balanced ability wise even though it is all neighborhood kids. FWIW, my kid is one of the ones left off and he is not the worst player. I don't like that but I also did not volunteer so I cannot really complain.

But what you and I are describing is the same kind of draft system.

[quote=Anonymous][quote]The way little league works, Tball and single A (machine pitch) are neighborhood teams.

AA, AAA and Majors are all a draft (coach by coach). All five levels have overlapping age brackets. For example, my 11 year old can play in either AAA (weaker to average 11 year olds) or majors (average to stronger players). My nine year old could play in 3 different levels (AA, AAA, or majors if he was a superstar).

AA does not have a try out, except perhaps if your kid is a star and is officially too young for the level.

AAA and majors are tryouts, with the very best kids (usually 9-12 year olds) on majors.

With my oldest, the teams ended up being jumbled between a ton of different schools and several grades starting in AA, because the coaches the coaches were trying to draft winning teams. He only knew of one team that was a "neighborhood team" and this was a different school than his. All of the other teams have been blended teams, which I thinkis best at this level.

My younger son's level seems to always have a few "neighborhood teams" instead of teams that are drafted to create a balanced team from different schools. I thought it would endby AA, but it has continued through AAA and I anticipate maybe through majors. This is when it starts to sting.[b] Because the teams are drafted by the coach, and because they are comprised of all neighborhood kids, the kids not chosen think it is because the coaches or parents don't like or want them, or that they must be he worst baseball player in their school.[/b] It is much more demoralizing when it is a neighborhood team in a draft situation and one or two are left off, than when it is a draft situation where kids are coming from 4-7 different schools and are chosen by merit or by what type of players the coaches need filled. It is easier to swallow rejection based off ability than to be rejected from a group containing all your neighbors, friends or classmates. 
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That being said, LL coaches are volunteers and it takes a lot of time, so they shoukd be able to pick the team they want to coach. It sucks though to the kids left out.[/b]

One more thing, when they get picked for a majors team they stay with that coach until they move out of little league. I think that is designed to prevent coaches from drafting from other teams to create an unbalanced league with one unbeatable team.[/quote]

14:04 here.  That's not how it works with the Babe Ruth baseball leagues I'm familiar with in NOVA.  In the Rookies league (A level in LL), the kids are placed on teams based on school boundaries.  It's in the Minors (AA level equivalent) that they kids are drafted by coaches - but every player is drafted, no one is left out even through the Seniors level.  That continues on through all the levels.  This is why the one coach/parent created his own travel team so he could cherry pick the players he wanted.  Those kids that weren't picked remained on the rec team.

I also disagree that volunteer coaches should be allowed to leave kids out (which was what you seemed to imply).  I have no problem with a draft but in rec leagues, everyone should get to play.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

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