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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]From a business perspective, I can't see how it makes any sense to exclude an entire 50% of the workforce from a single job category.  Your competitors who figure out how to tap into the talent of women are going to have an advantage.  [/quote]

Top CS/engineering programs are overwhelmingly male.  Top companies hiring tech talent would be dumb to not hire the best.  I don't think anyone would look at the top 100 engineers who are lets say 90 male and 10 female and not hire the 10 females.  What doesn't make sense is why would you hire say 10 more females and only 80 males.  Those 10 more qualified/talented males are going to go to a competitor and eat you alive.[/quote]

You think that at the margins the top 11-20% of women engineers will be outperformed by the bottom 10% of top performing male engineers such that the competition hiring the men will will eat you alive?  I think you vastly overvalue the input of people who are rank and file engineers.  They're not game changers.[/quote]

Ugh let me try this.  [b]You hire the best engineer period.  The race/sex of them is irrelevant.[/b]  Hiring a less qualified engineer because they are a woman/URM is stupid and is why diversity quotas/targets/initiatives are stupid[/quote]
Sure. But teh fact is: [i]that doesn't happen. [/i] Women get hired less. They get promoted less. And this knuckledragger thinks they shouldn't be there at all.[/quote]

Women should be hired and promoted less.  All the top engineering/CS programs are overwhelmingly male.

Here is what should happen.

1 Diversity hires should be eliminated hiring should be based on resume/talent/interview etc
2. Track women/URM hires using the system in number one and show that they do just as well (I agree that they well)

You do that you show the original manifesto guy he is wrong

3.  Have HR do their actual job and get rid of sexual harassment people

4.  If conditions are still bad women/URM should start their own companies hire people fairly have positive work environments and crush the compeition[/quote]

I wonder that the Venn diagram overlap is between men who post things like this and the original Google memo and men who are on Reddit sites like Red Pill and Incels? It's all the exact same whining. "Women have it easy. They get everything handed to them." "I can't get dates because of all these Chads, even though I am in the top 10 percent of nice/smart men." blah blah blah[/quote]

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