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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]From a business perspective, I can't see how it makes any sense to exclude an entire 50% of the workforce from a single job category.  Your competitors who figure out how to tap into the talent of women are going to have an advantage.  [/quote]

Top CS/engineering programs are overwhelmingly male.  Top companies hiring tech talent would be dumb to not hire the best.  I don't think anyone would look at the top 100 engineers who are lets say 90 male and 10 female and not hire the 10 females.  What doesn't make sense is why would you hire say 10 more females and only 80 males.  Those 10 more qualified/talented males are going to go to a competitor and eat you alive.[/quote]

Top programs are currently overwhelmingly male - but they weren't to begin with.  At the beginning of tech/CS, women were very well represented and many of the initial brilliant computer scientists and coders were women.
And then the bro-culture/gaming culture took over, pushing out women and thereby losing a TON of talent and opportunity for the companies.

Diversity isn't about some philosophical need for equality.  It's about getting the best ideas and most perspectives into a process.  And to keep recruit and retain the best women and minority engineers, a massive culture shift is needed at google and elsewhere.[/quote]

Agree. Many women drop out of engineering and computer science programs because they are hostile. Women deal with enough hostility in society, why put up with that shit at work? You start to see who your co-workers are then add workplace policies that are harder on women, why would women want this?! The few that persevere are constantly having to prove they are technically competent and also nice with a "cool girl" attitude toward misogyny. In the end, it is soul crushing.[/quote]

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