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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here is the more complete list that was posted on the other board.  Looks plenty impressive to me in what many TJ students considered a weaker class than the previous class of 2016.

UVA (342 applied, 191 accepted, 65 enrolled) 
William & Mary (192 applied, 142 applied, 37 enrolled) 
Virginia Tech (236 applied, 185 accepted, 44 enrolled) 
Amherst (6 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled) 
Brown (68 applied, 8 accepted, 3 enrolled) 
UC Berkeley (97 applied, 34 accepted, 11 enrolled) 
CalTech (26 applied, 4 accepted, 1 enrolled) 
Carnegie Mellon (140 applied, 36 accepted, 15 enrolled) 
UChicago (67 applied, 12 accepted, 6 enrolled) 
Columbia (90 applied, 9 accepted, 4 enrolled) 
Cornell (157 applied, 25 accepted, 13 enrolled) 
Dartmouth (41 applied, 5 accepted, 1 enrolled) 
Duke (97 applied, 13 accepted, 7 enrolled) 
Georgia Tech (111 applied, 35 accepted, 1 enrolled) 
Georgetown (38 applied, 14 accepted, 6 enrolled)
Harvard (91 applied, 6 accepted, 4 enrolled) 
Johns Hopkins (61 applied, 8 accepted, 3 enrolled) 
MIT (93 applied, 10 accepted, 8 enrolled) 
UMichigan (132 applied, 65 accepted, 17 enrolled) 
UNC Chapel Hill (48 applied, 17 accepted, 1 enrolled) 
UPenn (122 applied, 15 accepted, 6 enrolled) 
Princeton (106 applied, 9 accepted, 6 enrolled) 
Swarthmore (19 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled) 
Stanford (121 applied, 7 accepted, 5 enrolled) 
WashU (50 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled) 
Williams (9 applied, 3 accepted, 1 enrolled) 
Yale (72 applied, 8 accepted, 4 enrolled) 
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Actually, this list does not seem impressive to me when you consider that to just get admitted to TJ, one has to be a potentially ivy caliber middle schooler. Less than half of TJ applicants get into UVA. I'm sure that in 8th grade these kids were regarded as easily being the types of students to get into UVA. Honestly if I had a straight A middle schooler who tests well and is involved in extracurricular activities, I would assume that he would go to the likes of UVA. I would see it as disheartening that less than half of these types of kids get admitted after attending TJ. [/quote]

Correcting the PP.  Not sure where he/she got that less than half get into UVA with the numbers clearly listed above. [b] This year 56% got accepted to UVA which is historically low for TJ.  Usually about 64% get accepted over the last 5 years[/b].  if you are in the top 50% at TJ (though TJ doesn't formally rank but the kids and schools know where they stand by their weighted GPAs), you have about an 80% chance of getting in.  UVA was a near safety school for my S and a his close friends who all got in.  Most of them including my S chose not to attend UVA in the end and enrolled at some of the other schools listed above.  [/quote]

Ok, but a 64% acceptance rate is still not impressive considering that in 8th grade this group consisted of the highest achievers in their schools.  It shows that something about TJ attendance, whether it be not ending up in the top half due to stiff competition, harder to stand out in extracurriculars among peers, UVA wanting to limit the # of admittances from the same school, or perhaps something else, seems to be causing kids who in 8th grade would probably be considered shoo- ins for UVA to not get admitted. [/quote]

Many of the top TJ students ~top 20% do not apply to UVA. My kid (in top 10%) and many of his friends did not bother applying to UVA since they were not interested in UVA.[/quote]

Why must you make this stuff up?  It is far more likely the guidance counsellors steered the lower ranked students away from UVA.[/quote]

Agreed. My class of 2017 kid who graduated with 4.52 weighted GPA was told by counselor to use UVA as a safety. My other kid who graduated from TJ a few years ago with &lt;4.0 weighed GPA was told that UVA was a reach and ended up not applying.

Yes, it's true that my older kid probably would've done much better at his base HS and gotten into UVA if he'd applied. But he still wouldn't have gone there because it's not what he was looking for in a college. And in case anyone's wondering if he regrets having gone to TJ - the answer is NO because, besides the research/academic opportunities he had at TJ, he also found college pretty easy and now has the opportunity to attend top graduate programs due to his excellent grades and extensive research experience.
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