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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Remember when autism was caused by Refrigerator Moms? And then there was the schizophrenogenic mother[/quote]

totally different. ODD is inherently defined by relationships to other people, and many supposedly ODD kids are fine in settings away from family or as adults when they mature (or get away from family). Autism and schizophrenia are pervasive, objective disorders that are not subjectively related to other people.  [/quote]

and many kids with ODD do better WITH family than away from them while at school, camp, etc.
It's not always rebellion against bad parents like you presume[/quote]

So it's rebellion against a bad school environment.  If the "disorder" is defined by how you relate to an environment, ONLY shows up in one environment, it's paramount to also look at that environment.  How is that not obvious?[/quote]

It's often rebellion against a school environment that fails to provide appropriate accomodations or special ed support for kids with autism and/or ADHD. Kids are placed in large classes with 1 teacher who has no special ed training, little patience, and pressure from admin to raise standardized test scores, and Johnny acts out. He gets labeled the "problem student", other students start to shun him, and behavior worsens to ODD level.
This is what happens when kids don't get the special ed help they need.[/quote]

That's not a description of an actual freestandin diagnosis ... [/quote]

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