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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because Justin Trudeau is better than the Orange Menace?[/quote]

Only if you don't want to hang onto your own money.[/quote]

Ah, classic american line to justify why you live in a second world country.  If you're middle class or a "rich" wage earner (as in, someone whose income comes primarily from earned wages, and not from investments), your effective tax rate in the US is like 2-3% less than in Canada.  Now add up everything you pay for healthcare out of pocket, private preschool, private schools (if your kids go - much less common in canada where almost all public schools are pretty good paths to university), college for you and/or your kids, grad school for you and/or your kids.... throw in the general stress of wondering how you're going to pay for all those things, and then tell me if you'd just rather have them all covered by your extra 2-3% taxes.

If you're warrant buffett, you're much better off in the US.  [/quote]

I've met people who have fled Canada to come and work and live in the U.S. because our healthcare is so much better.  The Canadian healthcare system is not good.[/quote]

These are wives tails.  I grew up in canada. My family and all my childhood friends are in canada. No one flees canada for US healthcare.  People end up coming to the US for a variety of reasons and some like to bitch about healthcare when they leave. It's not why they left canada. [/quote]

Then do tell us the real reasons these folks are leaving Canada.  The people I spoke to talked about long waits to see doctors among other problems.[/quote]

I am Canadian. No Canadian immigrates to the US for its health care. They might travel to the US to get an investigation or a treatment, and pay privately but no way would any Canadian make a choice to live in the US. We have socialized medicine - you can get any treatment you want but not likely as quick as you want it. When you want a quick treatment or test and you can afford it, you go to the US and pay. Then you return home to Canada.

The main reason to move to the US is to make more money. For example, doctors make more money in the US than in Canada. Also your taxes are *much* less because you don't have socialized medicine and in general, there aren't the same expectations to take care of the poor, the weak , the ill in  the US, as we do in Canada. [/quote]

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