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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't teach math at TJ, but in another FCPS high school. Cheating is rampant everywhere. I space the kids out, put up dividers, give out multiple versions of tests, and watch them like hawks. Phones are not allowed on test days. I've still caught over a dozen cheaters this year (and I have to believe I missed twice as many).

The problem, IMO, is that there is no standardized policy for cheaters,by county or by school. It is up to each department or team at my school to create a policy, and even then if parents push, admin has made me go around and offer retakes for full credit (I.e. No punishment)[/quote]

When I was in college, they made it very clear to us, from orientation on, that cheating would be punished, with an F for the test or course or possibly expulsion, depending on the severity of the cheating and any prior record. High schools should teaching kids not to cheat.

TJ, though, does have a possible punishment in its back pocket that I believe would cause students to think twice before cheating. That would be to send the kids back to their regular schools. I'm not sure why they're not telling kids that cheating is unacceptable and will be punished every time. [/quote]

+1. They should. It would stop the cheating epidemic.  Quickly. But, they are fighting the parents on this, who seem to think that cheating is okay. See the people on this thread deflecting, saying sour grapes, and attacking.  School can't solve a parents with poor values.

But, I think everyone in FCPS should be pissed.  A lot of smart qualified kids are turned down each year. If kids are kicked out, there are plenty of qualified kids to take their place. People should be putting pressure on the school board to get serious and give TJ the ability to kick kids out, just like they can for less than a 3.0. [/quote]

Why can't the school just give the cheating student an "F" grade?  That would automatically take the overall grade down to a 3.0 or below and the student will get expelled.  As to the "cheaters are mostly Asian" comment, of course they will be since the TJ population "skews 70% Asian".

There is no excuse for unethical behavior.  Parents notwithstanding, the school should have policies that should discourage cheating.  IF there aren't any such policies, then there is no incentive for someone to stop. Period.  You can holler all day long about ethics, unethical parents, Indians, Chinese, blah, blah, blah.. but what's the point?[/quote]

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