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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There are regulations about how airlines choose who to bump, and the process (including compensation offers). My guess is United followed them. The person who was forcibly removed did not comply with a lawful order. I don't work for United.. but I'm not sure why this passenger didn't just comply with the police asking him to leave. Does he also not pull over his car when police try to stop him?[/quote] This comparison is ridiculous. He did not commit a crime- he paid for the service. United is the one that overbooked the flight and then allowed everyone to board - the situation is their mistake and should not be remedied on the passanger's behalf.[/quote] Actually, he did commit a crime by failing to follow the orders of flight crew. Rule 21 of the Contract of Carriage. Federal law. He also committed a crime by failing to comply with the orders of police, but that's a state law violation. [/quote] This isn't a police state. The police don't get to beat the living hell out of you for not immediately complying with an (arguably bullshit) order to leave an aircraft, something that puts no one in any sort of danger. [/quote] So if not following the law doesnt' put someone in danger, we aren't required to comply? There are Federal regulations on how to process an IDB (Involuntary Denied Boarding). There is no indication that United did not follow them. In any other situation, if you fail to comply with the orders of police, they will drag you away and arrest you. Why is it any different on an airplane? The passenger is welcome to take United and the police to court on this and seek compensation, but my guess is they won't win. [/quote] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_force_continuum Might be a good idea for you to educate yourself on what constitutes an appropriate use of force. Simply failing to obey a command does not give police carte blanche to exert any level of force they want to. This was not a reasonable response to the situation at hand.[/quote] You could very well be right. So the passenger can go after the City of Chicago Police. United didn't drag the passenger off -- the police did.[/quote]
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