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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nigerians place a huge emphasis on education and on excelling, as some have previously noted. Nigerians also account for 25 percent of black students at Harvard Business School. They are consistently academic standouts. Not affirmative action. [/quote]

Nigerians (and Cubans) are obsessed with exploiting American affirmative action policies that were not intended for them.[/quote]

Jesus.  [b]I guess it's totally impossible that a young woman of color could, by herself, merit these admissions?[/b]

I can completely understand why this MoCo student wrote this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/01/opinion/sunday/finding-growth-at-my-historically-black-college.html

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one of the biggest problems with those policies is that it casts a cloud on even the most deserving recipients. if there is an alternative explanation for her acceptances than, yes, people are going to wonder.[/quote]

Ok...but why should ANY kid give a damn about how YOU or anyone else think they got there?  Let them wonder.  [b]That is more your issue than it is hers. [/b] I tell my own kids and kids that mentor that it should not matter how you got there.  If you show up, do the work and take advantage of the opportunities, then it is all good.  But do not give one thought to other people speculating about why you got an opportunity.

Because a White kid could be dumb as a rock and get in because of legacy status.  Not one of you would look at him and think twice about him belonging at that school.  But a POC gets in and now everyone wants to second -guess and parse her accomplishments. [/quote]

no, actually, it's more of her issue. not saying she should care, she probably shouldn't and can't do anything about it anyway, byt what people think about how one got where she is can have a real life consequences.

also, not true that people don't care about legacies. jared kushner was written about prominently and disparagingly because he bought his way into harvard. people still talk about it, and it's pretty much a kind of a stigma. i am sure he was bothered by it, certainly at college and maybe even today. he has a harvard degree yet it doesn't feel real though he (i assume) did all the coursework.

the point is the same - what people think about how one got to where they are can be consequential. ignoring that is not easy.[/quote]

But the thing is that with respect to this young lady....YOU (not you...but you get my point) are making assumptions about her and assigning a stigma.  She will NEVER be able to control what others irrationally think how about she got to a school, so it should not matter to her one bit.  People "wondering" about how she got in is due to their own prejudices.  She should use her energy being the best student she can be - not worrying about how to dispel an uninformed assumption.  It is a game she cannot win.  I am sure that she worked her butt off to get into these schools - these schools do not admit just anyone.  So if I am her and I know how hard I worked, anyone who assumes otherwise can underestimate me to their peril.  I am not that sensitive and neither are my DC's - one college grad, one in college and one going next year.

All this young lady can do is make the best of the opportunity.  If she goes to one of the schools, makes the grades, has the right internships and aligns herself with the right people, then she has made the best of it.

As far as Jared, he may feel bad about it although I doubt it.  Why should he?  Because YOU think so?  I am sure that is Rolodex and his bankbook make him feel better though. [/quote]

Lol.....it isn't irrational at all to assume that an URM (apart from Asians) will have lower qualifications ON AVERAGE than the balance of the student body.  Why?  Because it's a fact. I wish this young woman nothing but the best and she may very well be an outlier and have gained admissions if the process was color blind but don't ignore hard data......it just makes your look ignorant.[/quote]

Ok...but what is your point?  SHE WAS ADMITTED TO THESE UNIVERSITIES!!  Why should she or my own AA kids in college give a flying fcvk about data or what you assume.  She is sitting next to your kid (or maybe not) in the same damn lecture halls. Assume what you want.  LOL

As I have posted many times before, this is typical of the mind games that many Whites play with the young POC’s. You want them to feel bad about the opportunities they have. They end up questioning whether they deserve certain things or whether they belong certain places.  Problem is that a lot of these young people don’t have adequate support to counteract these messages. Some of them come from places where they already feel less advantaged when they hit campus. Many of them are first generation college students so they do not have informed support at home.  They end up feeling like they do not belong – too embarrassed to ask for help and use the resources that are available to them. When I talk to some of these youngsters that I know who had difficulty, they talk about not “fitting in.” Then you have POC parents like me who tell our kids to ignore that shit.  If you ARE THERE, you belong there!  Mold the experience to fit and benefit you! If someone wants to whine about how they think you got there, let them.     My parents told me (and I tell my own kids) to be committed to my own success.  Matters not how you start but how you finish.  Be a finisher. If you get good grades or you prove your value to your employer, the people that matter could not care less how you got there – only that you ARE there.

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