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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I completely support this.  People need to follow rules and go through proper processes.  this is for all of our safety and the safety of your children.[/quote]

You're ignorant. There is no reason to go door to door and "randomly" stopping Latinos to ask for papers. There's no reason to deport people who have been living peacefully in our country since they were children. That does not help our safety.[/quote]

Try reading the article before setting up your very own strawman.[/quote]

I read the article and there is nothing wrong with PPs statement.  they are literally going door to door, going to schools, holding random checkpoints in unmarked cars asking for documents. They are not just targeting people who have been charged with a crime, as the administration has claimed. They have deported some people immediately, according to the article, and have detained others.  Someone please tell me how this makes America more safe. I'd argue it actually has the opposite effect, as it freaks out the entire immigrant community, members of which will no longer report crimes to the police.  [/quote]

There is nothing in the article that days they are doing or did any of ose things. Why would they go to a school? That makes no sense. They don't want to be dealing with a bunch of kids,

It seems to be lost on many people that being in the country illegally is  in and of itself a crime. So basically, yes, every illegal person is a criminal. [/quote]

No having improper paperwork doesn't make you a criminal. But clearly it makes you feel good to tell brown people they're criminals just because of their country of origin. [/quote]

I am as liberal as they come, and think this policy is misguided and poorly implemented, especially with respect to people who were brought here as children.  At the same time, this kind of reductive "logic" drives me nuts.  In an effort to skew the discussion, many liberals routinely refer to "undocumented immigrants" who have "improper paperwork," implying that it is akin to failing to renew your driver's license.  But it is not that.  "Undocumented" is just a polite, and misleading, way of saying that a person did not come into this country in compliance with out immigration laws - in other words, illegally.  Because of that, they don't have the "paperwork" that demonstrates that they are legally in the U.S.  Not having "papers" is not a crime in and of itself - it is the result of, and evidence of, the unquestionably illegal act of coming into this country without complying with the law.

I really think the liberal insistence in implicitly characterizing this as an administrative infraction hurts the cause.  There are better ways to address it than what the "so-called" President has done, but let's at least be honest about what we're dealing with.  [/quote]

This. 
We can't just deport all of them or scare them into leaving. Our agriculture sector depends heavily on these workers. [/quote]

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