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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Well, I guess we are not off the hook. What do you all make about the relative weakness of the US on math reasoning? I'm curious what the curriculum implications might be. Common Core standards emphasize reasoning. Singapore Math has tried to bring one of the curriculum that works elsewhere over. One would expect to see a bit of improvement rather than a slide.[/quote]
Too early to tell?  I don't know.  Not all states have implemented CC standards, and some only in the last two years, so maybe it's too early for it to really reflect in the math scores?

I'd like to see the results by state and whether that state uses CC standards, and for how long.  I know MA was one of the early adopters (and I believe some if not a lot of the standards came from the MA standards) and they typically do well on the PISA test. I know, there are other factors at play here for MA .[/quote]

Yes, too early. They are testing 15 year olds, right? None of them had any common core in the early years where math reasoning is established. In this area, the current 4th grade is first class of kids to have CC standards and an emphasis on reasoning all the way through (and at least in our school that class is testing off the charts).[/quote]

Agreed it is probably too early to tell, plus how many states have fought common core or implement it so poorly that it means nothing anymore? The only thing I can say good about our to be head of Dept. of Ed. is that she supports guidelines for teaching. And even that she waffles on between her support for homeschool, private, and parochial schools.[/quote]

Despite states fighting Common Core, schools across the country all purchase textbooks from the same small number of publishers.  They have all morphed to "Common Core compliant."  Everyone is also stuck with this because the New SAT is based on CC.[/quote]

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