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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm a Minister.  I'm working for Hospice now, but was in a church before we moved.  It's not easy for church leaders right now.  Thankfully, my church was very tolerant and fairly liberal.  LGBTQ friendly, diverse, open to discussions on different faiths, etc.  We spent a lot of time trying to live like the Christ we claimed to follow.  So, while I know we had members who were Republicans and conservative, I really doubt we had anyone in our membership who would support Donald Trump.

That said, ministers avoid politics in the pulpit.  For one, we risk our tax exempt status.  More importantly, ministers in church leadership positions should not be politicians.

I'm not working in a church right now. I can be very active in my local political groups.  And I am.  I've spoken at several marches and Interfaith Prayer Breakfasts.  I think clergy should be pointing out the hypocrisy of Christians turning away refugees.[b]  And frankly, if you support Donald Trump, you may claim to be a Christian, but you are behaving nothing at all like your Christ[/b].[/quote]

Shame on you.

One could say the exact same thing about Hillary and her stances.

The choices this cycle were very difficult for all people of faith. Many Christians voted to protect tehe supreme court. They did the bexst they could with the two terrible choices.[/quote]

I agree PP. I was agreeing  with what the so called minister wrote right up to that line. Really dismaying and shocking. [/quote]

Minister here - Let me be clearer because it's important.  I did NOT say the poster was "not a Christian".  I said "you are behaving nothing at all like your Christ".  Those are two very different things.  I certainly don't always behave in a Christ-like manner and I don't know anyone who does.

[b]As a minister, I will call out Christians who are professing to love Christ but acting in opposition to everything we know about him.[/b]  That's what we are supposed to do. I did it when I was leading churches, and I'll do it now.  If you tell me you are a Christian, great.  I don't know your heart.  But when your actions don't match your faith, there is a problem.

Everything we know about Jesus Christ suggests that he would be in direct opposition to this ban.  Period.  There is zero room for debate on this.[/quote]

Do you call out Hillary, Obama and the extreme left on their abortion stance? Theit views are very much contradictory to the teachings of Christ.

Do you call out the extreme left for seeking out and targeting Christian individually owned an sole proprietor small businesses such as florists and photographers and attacking the. With hateful rhetoric, shutting them down, threatening them and preventing them to use their God given talents to earn a livelihood?  I doubt it.

If you are going to say you speak out when people are not behaving Christ like, then you need to start in your own political house first.[/quote]

Jesus did not talk about abortion, so I have no idea what his views on that would be.  He also did not mention homosexuality despite it being very common in his day.

I don't call out specific people.  I don't think everyone who voted for Trump is "bad".  I do think if you are supporting his ban (with the religious means test), you need to spend some time thinking about what your Christ would have done.  Maybe reread the story of The Good Samaritan.  Think about what it means to "love your neighbor" and what was meant by "Whatever you do to the least of these you do to me".  Our actions are much more important than our words.  Just saying you are a Christian isn't enough enough, at least not by any definition I can imagine.

This isn't about individual politicians.  I'm certainly no fan of Hillary Clinton's.  This is about about actions.  Trump is the one in the White House.  His decisions right now represent everything that Christ spoke against.[/quote]

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