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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm a Minister. I'm working for Hospice now, but was in a church before we moved. It's not easy for church leaders right now. Thankfully, my church was very tolerant and fairly liberal. LGBTQ friendly, diverse, open to discussions on different faiths, etc. We spent a lot of time trying to live like the Christ we claimed to follow. So, while I know we had members who were Republicans and conservative, I really doubt we had anyone in our membership who would support Donald Trump. That said, ministers avoid politics in the pulpit. For one, we risk our tax exempt status. More importantly, ministers in church leadership positions should not be politicians. I'm not working in a church right now. I can be very active in my local political groups. And I am. I've spoken at several marches and Interfaith Prayer Breakfasts. I think clergy should be pointing out the hypocrisy of Christians turning away refugees.[b] And frankly, if you support Donald Trump, you may claim to be a Christian, but you are behaving nothing at all like your Christ[/b].[/quote] Shame on you. One could say the exact same thing about Hillary and her stances. The choices this cycle were very difficult for all people of faith. Many Christians voted to protect tehe supreme court. They did the bexst they could with the two terrible choices.[/quote] I agree PP. I was agreeing with what the so called minister wrote right up to that line. Really dismaying and shocking. [/quote] Minister here - Let me be clearer because it's important. I did NOT say the poster was "not a Christian". I said "you are behaving nothing at all like your Christ". Those are two very different things. I certainly don't always behave in a Christ-like manner and I don't know anyone who does. [b]As a minister, I will call out Christians who are professing to love Christ but acting in opposition to everything we know about him.[/b] That's what we are supposed to do. I did it when I was leading churches, and I'll do it now. If you tell me you are a Christian, great. I don't know your heart. But when your actions don't match your faith, there is a problem. Everything we know about Jesus Christ suggests that he would be in direct opposition to this ban. Period. There is zero room for debate on this.[/quote] [b] Do you call out Hillary, Obama and the extreme left on their abortion stance? Theit views are very much contradictory to the teachings of Christ.[/b] Do you call out the extreme left for seeking out and targeting Christian individually owned an sole proprietor small businesses such as florists and photographers and attacking the. With hateful rhetoric, shutting them down, threatening them and preventing them to use their God given talents to earn a livelihood? I doubt it. If you are going to say you speak out when people are not behaving Christ like, then you need to start in your own political house first.[/quote] Christ did not mention abortion. Ever. He did mention refugees quite a lot, and loving others as yourself. I'm Presbyterian, and while abortion isn't encourage, neither is it prohibited.[/quote] Wait, killing babies in the womb is "loving others"? Jesus said it would be better if you were thrown into the sea with a millstone around your neck than to hurt a child. Do you really think Jesus didn't care about humans when they were their absolutely most vulnerable? [/quote] Embryo and a refugee child hanging over the edge of the building. Which do you save?[/quote]
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