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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you want to hear from atheists only, the Religion board may not be the best place for you. But you knew that.[/quote]

I wonder how quick it will take Jeff to delete this troll thread. [/quote]

Well if he's going to start deleting, then he has his work cut out for him on the other thread. [/quote]

You yourself just admitted it's merely a retaliation thread.  You've also tried to prevent other people from answering.  I think you'll find your attempt at trolling is not turning out the way you'd hoped [/quote]

ALL atheist threads directed to religious people either overtly or by implication (as this one clearly is--"LOOK AT ME, I'M FUTILELY TRYING TO YOU RELIGIOUS PEOPLE FROM THE DISCUSSION") are in a sense "retaliation."  Atheism is a reaction to religion, an attempt to negate it, not simply (as atheists often claim) a non-belief in god.   People who don't believe in god don't believe in god but have absolutely no need to constantly broadcast it.  Atheists are sort of like those people without kids who declare themselves "childfree."  They spend all of their time explaining and justifying why they DON'T have children and why that's O.K.  and how discriminated against they are by people who have kids.  It's all very butt hurt.

I'd wager most of us don't believe in pink elephants yet for some reason we don't feel any need to argue about the non-existence of pink elephants with people who do believe in them.   [/quote]

This is wrong. *Some* atheists do that but not most. You just are more aware of that subset because they are being loud and obnoxious. Perhaps you should give it a clarifying label such as militant atheist?

As a reasonable person who does not have faith and for whom the definition of atheist applies I am not willing to cede the term to your definition.
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But, reasonable non-militant atheist PP, you're doing precisely the thing you claim to not be doing.  It's not a matter of your polite manner of expressing your viewpoints as an atheist vs. a militant atheist doing so in a much more insulting manner.

You're arguing about why people who are religious should make fine distinctions among different brands of atheist or varieties of atheism--militant vs. "nice" atheist.  Why do you even care?

There IS no "militant" atheist vs. "nice" atheist.  An "atheist" is someone who doesn't believe in god, or so we are led to believe.  Not someone who has to argue with people to disprove they are the militant variety.  What is the point of that?  Who cares if you're a militant atheist or a "nice" atheist?  Who cares if religious people think militant atheists are representative of all atheists, or not?

Who exactly do you think you're trying to prove that you're not one of those "militant" atheists to, and why are you trying to prove it?

A religious person's focal point in a discussion with an atheist about metaphysics is going to be about the metaphysics, because the religious person care about the religious aspect of belief.   An atheist doesn't believe in religious metaphysics, so all you're trying to do is start an argument that "not all atheists are militant."   Who cares?[/quote]

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