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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Kids can change do much in 1 year. I def think some kids need hand holding done in 11th grade if they show interest in a field and a parent knows her kid best. Of course they have to do  the work when they get into a program like this , but they would have matured by then. I agree the average kid who is good or would be good in engineering/math is probably not the type of  kid who is comfortable asking for help - from an adult with them being 15yo.

I work with lots of smart, capable 30-ish engineers and when I tell them about my son, they pretty much agree that they were shy and reserved when they were that age. I'm sure they needed done hand holding and guidance in the beginning to get them to this point.[/quote]

If you are "shy and reserved" you don't necessarily need hand holding to figure out your direction. I think the word you're looking for is "unambitious". Plenty of shy kids can figure it out and get things done. [/quote]

I think you are harsh.  By definition, students are learners and sometimes need help making choices and understanding options.  I don't agree that the word is "unambitious" -- it might be, but you are forgetting these are kids. Some see everything as an assault of their fragile sense of self, and don't even know where to begin.  [/quote]

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