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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If the violent people in masks are really Jewish agitators, why don't the other protesters de-mask them and show the world who they really are? [/quote]

It is an antisemitic trope to imply that protestors need to mask in order to avoid retribution from the pro Israel American community for voicing their views.[/quote]

I’d love to discuss this more. Doxing is a real thing with real consequences.  I personally know of a periodontist in MA who was fired for removing an illegally posted hostage poster in Nov 23 after a photo was taken of her and posted by pro Isreal supporters.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/15/business/palestinian-americans-activists-doxxing

I don’t know who the masked people are at the student rallies.  But I could see if I was one of them I would want to hide my face for fear of retribution which I know has been taken in the past.

How exactly is that antisemitism? [/quote]
If the poster was put up illegally, call the non-emergency police number. Don't look like a Hamas-sympathizing a-hole by removing it yourself.[/quote]

Talk about disingenuous.

The poster wasn't removed b/c it was "illegally posted". The poster was removed b/c the periodontist didn't want people to sympathize with the hostages.

100% deserved to be fired. [/quote]

Someone deserved to lose their job because they removed a poster?

Nah - I wouldn’t have done it, but justifying someone’s life being upended for the act of removing a poster (regardless what that means to you) is 100,000x more outrageous than what she actually did. The people that doxxed her are scumbags, and you’re a scumbag for trying to justify it.

And if you can’t see why removing a poster in Massachusetts that involves people in Israel doesn’t affect anyone at all at the level of someone losing their job, further shame on you. Some people refuse to justify the outrageous history of Israel’s atrocities, knowing that nobody puts up posters for the countless victims of Israel barbarity over the years.[/quote]

So much confusion in this post.

1. She was absolutely free to put up her own poster re: Palestinian victims of Israel.

2. I 100% support people bearing the consequences of their public actions. What if she'd ripped down a George Floyd poster after he was murdered? Or a poster of school shooting victims because she opposed gun control? What about the Jan. 6 protesters who didn't enter the Capitol?

All firing offenses, IMO.

To me, if you act like an a** in public, then you deserve to bear the consequences of your actions.
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As to the first two examples in #2, wake us up when George Floyd or school shooting victims (especially gross of you to choose that, given what I’m about to write) have a history within a billion miles of what Israel has done to the people who committed the 10/7 acts.

And as to your final point - the PROBLEM is that irredeemable, vengeful Zionists like you ALSO demand to dictate what those consequences should be.

Do you get it? [b]What if the dentist or whatever was removing a 10/7 hostage poster that was affixed to their own property without permission.[/b] You are not demanding excessive “justice”, or to define the extent of the punishment, for them … having removed a poster?

Man, what is wrong with you. Seriously.[/quote]
Found an article about the dentist. [url]https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/dentist-fired-after-video-shows-her-taking-down-israeli-hostage-posters/3168391/[/url]
She was removing posters at a public shopping center, not on her own property or business. The article also points out that police had been in the process of removing the illegally-posted posters, so she really didn't need to step in and tear them down herself.[/quote]

Again, protesting or tearing down posters isn't my style, but we have no idea how those posters might have triggered this individual or any individuals. For example, if I was Palestinian American and had I had lived a life of family members being blown apart by Israel, I'm pretty sure that even the Star of David would be upsetting to me. Frankly, I think anger would be an acceptable emotion for even a highly adjusted human being in the face of a symbol of that family history, right?

No idea of the background of this particular person, but want to make the point that context truly matters.

And I don't think that in any way, shape or form should be surprising to anyone at this point. A Jewish state was created. It's clearly fighting to the bitter end to remain a Jewish state, which is incompatible with the empty argument that it's ALSO a democratic state. It's not. Full stop. Based on that progression of reality, whatever that nation does - good or bad - will reflect back on the non-Israeli Jewish people, too, or at least the ones who won't disavow anything bad done by Israel.

If Israel was the beacon of light and all that's good that we've been sold on for years, non-Israeli Jews would be able to ride that wave of goodwill, too. And who would object to that? Not me.

But the truth - and the truth still matters - is that Israel has not been a beacon of light, and Israel has been essentially the opposite of its gleaming promise. And I guess that's where the inflection point for non-Israeli Jews occurs - do you say "I'm unapologetically Jewish, I deserve to live in peace like everyone else, I adamantly oppose terrorism, but I also oppose a lot of what's going on in Israel right now" or do you say "Israel has done nothing wrong, it has the right to defend itself at any cost, and anyone opposed to that mantra is anti-semitic", and then expect others to accept everything as fair game under that vacuous authorization to "defend itself"?[/quote]

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