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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I saw on Reddit that Justin is rumored to be setting up a big sit down interview with someone to "tell his story." Curious if it will be a legit journalist or, like, Megyn Kelly. Or worse, one of the CCs that Freedman is always chatting with. It would be pretty funny to me if Justin's big interview was only available on TikTok and Youtube.

He is also rumored to be writing a book.

As someone who at one point watched a few episodes of Baldoni's podcast to better understand who the heck he was, I would just like to let people know he sucks and is very annoying and if the upshot of this case settling is that we hear more from him, this is a net negative for everyone. That doesn't mean I want to hear from Blake (I don't!) but I think a lot of people have basically never heard Justin speak at length as himself and not in character for a movie. It is grating. There is a reason a lot of people associated with this movie (not just Blake) wound up just not liking or respecting him.[/quote]

I don't think he really matters. He's basically a figurehead who could be anyone that people would support over Blake. People on here talk about others being "Pro Baldoni" but it's really being more "Anti Lively" in this scenario.  Sure, maybe he's annoying. Who cares? Anyone who was in his shoes being slandered as a sexual predator and having their career destroyed by much more powerful people was always going to have support. I'd venture to say most supporters of his didn't even really know wiho he was before this, I certainly didn't. But I am on his side even if he's a little grating. [/quote]
  
He certainly has done nothing that set people off for the past two years, unlike Blake and Ryan.  Further, his texts/emails sound like the work of a normal person while Blake and Ryan manage to sound like complete psychos whenever they text or email.[/quote]

I disagree his text/emails sound like the work of a "normal person." Agree Blake and Ryan sound insufferable but so does Baldoni. It's just different versions of insufferable.

Ryan is very "Hollywood" -- it's all "oh my god, you're amazing", "no, YOU'RE amazing", "omg stop!" And little inside jokes and a lot of confidence. Yes, it would irritate me and I do not invest time in people like that in my life. It does not come off as sincere.

But Justin strikes me as a vulnerable narcissist. He uses vulnerability to get people to like him (and he is desperate for people to like him, this especially comes across when he's telling a bunch of different people what they want to hear and it all conflicts). I find his male feminist schtick to be part of this same pattern. He's like "I realize I'm imperfect, I have been the patriarchy, but now I understand and I'm on the side of women." But then he uses that confession/vulnerability like a shield, so it's like you're not allowed to criticize or even just say "hey this bothered me" without him falling apart into tears and apologies (so now the whole conversation is about *his* feelings). I have known people like this and it is VERY toxic. They are virtually impossible to work with. There is no accountability for their own actions because they just act like the victim of their own behavior and choices all the time. It's really exhausting.

I actually found many of Blake's emails genuine. I thought the exchange between her and Taylor where Blake says she noticed that Taylor has felt distant and wanted to reach out, and Taylor tells her that Blake had been just obsessively discussing the case, and then Blake sends a jokey form letter as a form of apology -- that felt very real to me. Whatever their friendship is now, that is exactly who real friends connect and communicate after years, and there was real vulnerability there. I also have read many of the texts between Blake and Jenny, and Blake and Colleen, and there is realness there. There was one I saw recently where Jenny was asking Blake if Colleen was mad at her (at Jenny I mean) because she'd seemed to have a weird vibe at a recent event, and Blake's response was very empathetic towards both Colleen and Jenny, basically noting how Colleen seems to deal with stress and how overwhelming everything had been and reassuring Jenny. It was sweet! She seems like a good friend. Also another back and forth between Blake and Colleen expressing how meaningful it was for them to work on the project together. It sounds like two working moms discussing how hard it can be to go to work away from your kids when it doesn't feel rewarding, and thanking each other for being supportive in the process and making it rewarding for one another. Again, that one feels real to me.

But I think people don't read that stuff. They just read like the khaleesi email (which, yes, is embarrassing and winds up sounding needy and dumb) and the stuff from Ryan and decide they know enough.

I actually like Blake more after reading a bunch of her private texts and emails than I did before, and I don't think that is true of most people.

And yes, I've read way too much stuff associated with this case and yes I'm obsessed with all of it and yes it's unhealthy. Whatever. You're here too.[/quote]

Blake’s voice note to Justin that was released in one of the dumps a few months ago, the one that starts,” I hope you’re so well….”

It literally chilled me to my bone. Because I know people like that. It’s incredibly manipulative and almost every interaction with Justin or with Taylor, Blake immediately references Ryan. She’s very dependent on his power.

But more than that, Ryan and Blake both have a way just making you feel like you’re very close. And at that point she had just had the baby and they had met for the first time in December so these people had known each other maybe a month? And she’s talking about how much she trusts him and how safe she feels, how she didn’t want to bring this to his attention, but Ryan was like “no you’re friends, you should.” And let’s remember these people were coworkers. He was her director and costar. Just very weird behavior to act as if they have a deep, vulnerable m, trusting relationship. You could also spot from a mile away the way that they started asking for favors they were seeing how far they could go to push this guy. Asking for the filming locations to be changed, asking for the shoot schedule to be changed. Within a couple of weeks.

I found the texts with Taylor not genuine at all. It sounds like they have a very superficial relationship. I’m not surprised that they’re not speaking anymore. [/quote]

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