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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No, pp, you are misunderstanding the law or simply don't agree with it. The caterer who is truly running a religious business can use this right to discriminate, because her right to practice her religion freely is more critical than the governments need to protect gays from discrimination. But this right is reserved for those who truly espouse religious principles, not for just anyone who hates gays. The point is to protect religious freedom (or the freedom of assoc), not to permit bigotry and discrimination, because we all should know by now that hatred in bigotry and discrimination is a social harm. If you as a caterer never thought to make your business a religious entity to begin with, you are not that religious but using religion as an excuse now to discriminate. Not okay. There are religious caterers who only cater to religious events. These businesses can use this exemption. Not you, who was catering universally to all kinds of people before, [b]but now suddenly became aware some of your food will be purchased by gays and dislike it.[/b] [/quote] The bolded IS the problem - this is outright wrong. It's not about purchasing; it's about [i]participating[/i]. [/quote] I'm sorry, is the wedding cake served at the altar? Selling a cake to be served at a reception is not in any way participating in a ceremony.[/quote] And the law doesn't require that cakes ONLY be served at an alter before they have the right to discriminate gays. The right to discriminate gays is born out of the Freedom of Association and Freedom of Religion clauses of the Constitution. If your religion thinks homosexuality is a sin, and your business is clearly a religious business, then you may reject catering to gays. If your organization thinks homosexuality is wrong, and it was founded on this belief, then you may choose to reject homosexuals from your organization. The law doesn't require the catering be for religious ceremonies for gays; it only requires that your organization or business be founded on anti-homosexuality belief.[/quote] Then why is the EEOC suing a company that fired Muslims who refused to deliver alcohol, which was part of their job?[/quote]
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