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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is the same troll who starts threads on the injustices of private school under the guise of being "new to the area" and just asking a loaded question. Then when anyone disagrees she responds with sarcasm. Try to ignore her[/quote]

Could be a troll, but the question remains valid. Why do schools accept socioeconomic segregation. Is that consistent with the goals of social justice and inclusion that they preach? Maybe, but it doesn’t look so. [/quote]

It's not a smart question. Most private schools don't have a goal of social justice and inclusion, they have a goal of high quality academic education in a low conflict environment. There is no economic model that would work for this goal with a broad SES community, they need way too much tuition money to make it work. Private entities, whether schools or stores or clubs, are there to provide a good or service for a fee and those who can't pay are rarely included. This is how capitalism works. We're also not giving away Porches in a lottery, people have to pay for them.[/quote]

But still there is the consensus to avoid racial segregation in expensive schools with the goal of inclusiveness (most schools publish their numbers). Why not having the same goal with socioeconomic inclusion. Are poor people more violent and ignorant ? That’s how people thought about non-white people 50 years ago. I think there are merits in broadening the concept of diversity, even for expensive schools. [/quote]

Who's going to pay for it? And don't say the governement because we are not taking more money away from public schools. That is a non starter.[/quote]

You can start by switching the financial aid recipients from upper middle class families to lower class families. That would be budget neutral to schools. [/quote]

How would that be budget neutral?  The lower class families would each need more financial aid, and additional supports, so then you end up giving aid to fewer students.  This could easily reduce the number of financial aid recipients in half if you want to remain budget neutral.  Financially it doesn't make sense.

Wealth is relative and these middle class families are very much on the low end at these schools.  Throwing lower class families in there is just cruel.  They would be in an environment where their classmates attend luxury vacations, buy expensive clothing, drive nice cars, can afford to do sports, and so on.  It just doesn't make sense.[/quote]

If you take all financial aid and give to low income families and then the rest of families pay full tuition that is budget neutral. Not sure why upper income families really need financial aid at all. [/quote]

You really don’t understand any of this.  There are zero low income families to begin with.  It takes more than free tuition to make them excel at an elite private school.  Affording stable transportation, extracurriculars, tutoring, sports, uniforms, etc.

The middle class families really cannot afford school without financial aid.  So you would be excluding them if you remove that.  And these are the financial aid students who are most likely to succeed.[/quote]

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