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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’d love my trash to get picked up, too, but that’s the nature of this storm.  [/quote]

Good news.  Unlike schools, trash pickup back to regular schedule this week.[/quote]

Not true. Arlington limited pick up to trash and recycling.  Not green cans

This was an extraordinary weather event.  Ice and terribly low temps.  It isn’t snow removal but ice block removal.

Warm up starts Tuesday.

Ease up.  [b]No city could have handled this.[/b] [/quote]

This is absurd.  [b]Many cities handle this all the time.  [/b]People should be respectful when discussing this, but it's not "hysterical" to point out there are some lessons learned.  In the era of climate change, we're going to get more extreme weather.  Time to do some thinking on how to better manage these situations.  There are so many things we could be doing better and planning for ahead of time.   Stating that your government should do this type of review and asking questions and pointing out problems is normal.  [/quote]

Liar.

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Some of you have clearly never lived anywhere with actual snow and ice and cold conditions.  You think this type of event has never occurred in the history of the world or something?  Totally laughable.[/quote]

I grew up in upstate NY.

Many cities, especially those in the south, do not "handle" this type of icy, packed snow "all of the time". I've lived through several big blizzards and none were as challenging to remove as this. Snowblowers only would have helped for the initial snowfall. Temps were too low to salt roads in advance. It's tough to get heavy equipment into narrow, car-lined neighborhood streets.

The situation sucks. People being irrational dickheads about it aren't helping. 
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Up north they manage to clear the streets more quickly, before the precipitation has a chance to harden for days.  It wasn't that hard to get this stuff off the roads on Sunday or even Monday.  We did our cars and sidewalks and it wasn't terrible.  But now it's hardened and is so so so much harder to remove.

APS literally had janitors with plastic snow shovels clearing schools.  There's no way that's sufficient.  Once the stuff is solid, you need heavy plows and bobcats.[/quote]

We did ours as well. It took 2 of us multiple rounds just to do our sidewalk/driveway. And then more rounds after the plows came through.

Some schools have what 2-3 janitors? To clear the parking lots, sidewalks, etc.? Should each school have a snowblower? Many years, we don't even get snow. It is worth the expense and upkeep?

It was an oddball storm. We will get through it. 
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If you follow the thread, my comment was in response to some crazy suggestions that up north they use more potent salt or salt in greater quantity to clear streets.  That's just wrong.  They just remove the snow when it's fresh so it doesn't harden on roads.

But I do also think it's crazy that janitors are being asked to clear large areas of significant snow with a shovel.  Arlington county has small plows and snow blowers for public sidewalks and bike lanes.  There could be coordination.  There are also options to sign up a private contractor to come and help with snow removal at schools.  There are options.[/quote]

It's not wrong that they use a lot more salt.  Google "salt belt".  It's terrible for cars and the environment.  However, they do use more salt and salt with chemicals.[/quote]
It's not used to clear a major snow storm when it's bitter cold out.  That's crazy talk and what was being suggested.  [/quote]

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