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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Goldwater Scholars count over last 5 years:

Amherst 11
Williams 5
Harvard 21
Hopkins 20
MIT 19
Columbia 23

A school can only nominate 4 applicants per year so again size does not matter.

Past 5 Years:

William and Mary 10
UVA 9
VT 9
Berkeley 8

The only logical conclusion is Berkeley sucks at STEM. . .

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Been watching this for days......

NewsFlash!

[b]Nobody gives a rats ass about Goldwater scholars.[/b] They have nothing to do with school quality or any of this ranking nonsense.

[b]And, nobody cares about USMAO either[/b]

It also tells us nothing about the quality of the school but says much about yourself, but not anything good.

[b]Same goes for Apkers[/b] They're cool but say nothing about a school. A kid from Houghton won a few years ago in 2021 it was Kutztown and UMass-Boston. None of those awards resulted in a new deluge of applications to the new 'it' school for Physics.

So Please, just calm down and go back to arguing about whether or not top SLACs are the equals of the Ivies.[/quote]

I imagine the students who went through the Goldwater process probably thought it was worthwhile.  Money + a leg up on graduate school admissions.[/quote]

I imagine that they do, it is a great prize. But to somehow equate any of these individual awards to school rankings and equality is beyond stupid. There have been Goldwater winners with B average GPAs.[/quote]

There have been Goldwater winners with B average GPAs.

Cite some.  You won't because you are full of shit.[/quote]

That is easy, last line on the eligibility page. You might want to do a better job at hiding your stupidity.

"In recent Goldwater competitions, GPAs have ranged from 3.15 to 4.95 on a 4.00 scale."

[url]https://goldwaterscholarship.gov/eligibility/[/url]

Also, the award is great recognition for the winners but has zero reflection on the school itself. Whoever added "The Goldwater" to this thread obviously had no clue as to what they were actually talking about. They truly had their heads stuck up their ass because they were so desperate to "prove" that the Ivies are better than the top SLACs (NewsFlash, they aren't) by pulling out an award won by a kid at Pasadena City College, Louisiana Ag & Tech, CUNY Borough of Manhattan Community College, and Grand Valley State University as a point of Ivy superiority.

[b]If I, someone from a non-selective public can whack you (and this subject) around so easily I shudder to think about what a kid from Williams would do to you. They would most definitely eat. [/b]

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Don't wrench your shoulder trying to pat yourself on the back.  The text you referred citing a minimum of 3.0 GPA was in the [b]eligibility[/b] section as in the minimum to be eligible for a Goldwater nomination.  It did not say anything about [b]winners[/b].  Winners [b]typically[/b] have much higher GPAs between 3.7 and 4.0.

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The quote I provided is the meaningful part, but you skipped that because it doesn't fit your narrative. The bottom line of the page is the quote which is actual information. You realize the problem with your use of "typical" or do you need some help? And you ignored the schools cited as examples because they do not fit your narrative. You've got yourself in a tough spot right now. I would suggest that you just bow out. [/quote]

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