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I'll bet this guy who isn't involved in the details also never planned a date, vacation, didn't do much wedding planning, or anything else the hapless fiancee might have noticed much earlier in the relationship. Then 3 kids later she decides he's kind of a dud. The writing was on the wall.[/quote]

Most people I know in this situation, this is exactly the case.

Not all. Most.

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Weddings are planned by the brides family and often the grooms family. It is not an exercise in How the Dude Cares or Planning Skills, unless he really takes charge of a few areas and knocks it out of the park - like finds the best band available or a cool outing the day before or knows wine cases to buy or loves making invitationsz

Most dud guy marriages we see are a guy with. Job who masked jsut enough to get married, whilst saying all the right things but not having any examples. Yes I want kids, yes I want a hisue and yard, yes I want you. Then it happened and Poof, he retreated into seclusion and shutdown mode. All he could handle was showtime at work. [/quote]

Your use of "whilst" gives you away. [/quote]

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