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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I keep seeing this thread pop up and every time I can't help but think who the hell does UVA think they are? You are a state school in a podunk town with a mediocre football team - basically a virgin who can't drive. AP's in all five or you're not good enough for us? Ok! I will make my way to all of the other amazing state schools in VA and not even apply to your boring, overrated school. Sit and spin, UVA. [/quote]

You have to be a kid. Have a hard time imagining an adult taking their time to write this. Appreciate the amusement though.[/quote]

Come on. No one has said "sit and spin" since the 80's. I'm obviously Gen-X. With a really smart kid, accomplished kid who couldn't care less about UVA. I'm just saying...there are some very twisted pairs of undies out there for a school that is not all that. Does Harvard deserve a wedgie? Probably. Yale? Likely. UVA? Absolutely not. [/quote]

And one more thing...if you live in Virginia, your tax dollars are supporting UVA. Every kid should have a shot at being accepted at a state school their tax dollars support. Even the ones who don't take five AP's and get all A's at the risk of losing their sanity. What about the kid who made wise choices about their course load because they love their sport and they work part-time and value being a human being on the weekends instead of spending hours and hours on homework, test prep, tutoring? That kid is trash to UVA. Think about it.[/quote]

If that kid is so desirous of attending UVA but unwilling to put in the necessary effort in HS, they can go to their community college for two years, get good grades and apply as a transfer student. [/quote]

You're missing the point. Why is this crazy criteria the necessary effort for UVA? As previously noted, there are elite colleges (i.e., MIT) that have more reasonable admissions criteria. I'm not sure what UVA is trying to prove by being so sadistic. And I find it hard to believe that you can only be successful at UVA if you practically kill yourself with academics in high school. [/quote]

No, you are missing the point. If a kid wants to attend a highly selective college such as UVA, the kid is competing for admission with the very top students in the state and others from across the country, and needs to plan and achieve accordingly. If the kid doesn’t want to do that, no problem, but then don’t expect to be admitted in the place of a kid who did. Many classes, students, activities at UVA are crazy competitive even after being admitted and attending so chances are [b]a kid who didn’t want to work too hard in HS[/b] will be miserable and/or struggle there even if admitted.[/quote]

I know a kid who is working his tail off in HS, is making good grades, has a few AP's, and is a great student with amazing work ethic and EC's. His counselor is saying UVA isn't an option so he shouldn't apply. [b]In his home state. The parents went to UVA. [/b]That doesn't seem off to you? And before everyone turns around and says, "He should apply!" Go back to title of this thread and read what AO's are saying. [/quote]

DP. That doesn’t seem off to me. My husband and I both went to UVA. So didn’t the parents of a handful of other top students at my junior’s high school. They’re all taking essentially the same AP-heavy course load. They won’t all get in. It’s fine. If ours doesn’t, she’ll go elsewhere. [/quote]

It seems like UVA could solve this problem by admitting a few hundred more VA kids a year. Plan for a small increase in size, add the kids, the quality doesn’t decline (they are all top), in-state admission rate and number goes up, residents are happy (until others start complaining), and so on. Not unreasonable for a public university, and an expensive one at that.[/quote]UVA added 1000 first years in the last decade. They've built new dorms, but the first year areas are full.

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Seems like they could figure out how to add another 100-200 then with some basic planning.[/quote]

There will always be hundreds, probably thousands, of students and parents every year who think - occasionally justifiably - that they should have been admitted.  No one will ever be satisfied and what’s UVA supposed to do - increase the undergrad student population by thousands (if this is even possible given space and financial constraints and the desires of Charlottesville) resulting in a UVA that is no longer the UVA these people want to attend???[/quote]

Well if all of these kids are as good as people are claiming, then yeah. If there are VA kids with genuinely top stats, rigor, etc., that are getting rejected, then yeah. UVA is small for a “flagship” and its in-state acceptance rate is middling for a top public. Seems weird to take a stance that it’s the absolute perfect size as is.[/quote]

17k undergraduates is small?? My top rigor and stats kid finds the size just right. Many good options in VA.  [/quote]

For a large public, yes. But we’re not talking about making it big, just adding enough in-state seats to accommodate really strong in-state kids that are otherwise getting rejected. So going from 17k to, say, 18k.[/quote]
The strongest get in. The bar in state for uva is lower than it takes to get into Emory and all the other T25 privates. The bar is slightly higher than UNC requires of its students from in state but that decision makes the OOS kids there feel like they are very different from the instate: it is a wider intellectual gap. UVA has a narrow gap and they take a lot of OOS so the peer mix can rival the other T25s. Why on earth should UVA lower the bar ? There is zero need with so many other great schools that smart but not quite that level can go. [/quote]
You said this as if Emory was the easiest T25 private to get into. Pretty sure that belongs to Notre Dame. [/quote]

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