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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Read the article - it suggests 1400 AND being from an inner city high school or school lacking resources would get in. But NOT an upper middle class DCUM DS or DD with a 1400. Point being if you managed a 1400 without out all the resources and benefits you probably have the grit and intellect to hold your own. [/quote]

So go to a crap high school and get a middling score will be the new playbook?[/quote]

1400 is not a middling score.

Do you people know anything about standardized tests?[/quote]

95th percentile isn't middling.[/quote]

It's lower than middlling for highly selective schools like Dartmouth.

1,400 is well below the 25th percentile for Dartmouth.

It's a high score for JMU[/quote]

95th percentile is just that.

Dartmouth states that one can do the work @1400. Remember,  admissions are still holistic. Other factors in admissions.[/quote]

95 percentile doesn't mean anything.
It's 0-25 percentile for Dartmouth, and it's mostly reserved for athletes, legacy, URM, big donation, celebrities, etc.

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People love to throw URM into the mix, but it's not true.  Roland Fryer who is a Harvard economist actually did an analysis on the URM population at Harvard and it is actually wealthier with same or better test scores than the average Harvard student.

[b]He was arguing that AA policies were actually nonsense...that Harvard wasn't finding the gem from Anacostia HS, but rather accepting the child of the Nigerian diplomat or wealthy doctor at Sidwell.[/b]

Sure, there are some Questbridge kids in there, but it's not the profile of the Ivy league URM on average.[/quote]

100% this. I think nobody has a problem helping kids out of poverty or with no advantages.  Hell, that's what happened to my dad.  White kid in government housing, salvation army donations, that was found to be incredibly bright by the nuns and sent to prep school and then feeder university on a full ride.  My dad was incredibly brilliant and without that financial aid, he never would have made it out. My husband is a pell grant recipient that made it so he could attend a T10.  I 100% support that no matter the race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.  I think what most people don't like or can't accept is wealthy kids with all the advantages (often more than the non-urm) being awarded special status.[/quote]

I was talking with an HYP alum who holds a very influential non-employee position with the person’s alma mater, and he/she also agrees 100% with Fryer.[/quote]

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