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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Read the article - it suggests 1400 AND being from an inner city high school or school lacking resources would get in. But NOT an upper middle class DCUM DS or DD with a 1400. Point being if you managed a 1400 without out all the resources and benefits you probably have the grit and intellect to hold your own. [/quote]

So go to a crap high school and get a middling score will be the new playbook?[/quote]

1400 is not a middling score.

Do you people know anything about standardized tests?[/quote]

It's a middling score for selective schools. 
It's probably high score for 3000+ other  schools.
Do you know anything about college admissions?[/quote]
No it isn’t. Historically that was a score that a number of admits had, or around that score. A 1400 is 95th percentile. A 1500 is 98 percentile, fyi. A 95 percentile score shows you can likely manage the work at an Ivy. [/quote]

Nope sorry.
1,400 is well below the 25th percentile for Dartmouth and other Ivies and highly selective schools.  
It's not even middling. It's a low score for highly selective scores probably from athletes, URMs, legacies, etc.

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think that many people on this board seem to have a highly inflated view of kids at Ivies and what it takes to graduate from one. There are, undoubtedly, some brilliant kids at Ivies. There are also, undoubtedly, some above average kids who get in for a variety of reasons and then do just fine. Someone who scores in the 95th percentile in the country is not too dumb to succeed at an Ivy or other selective school. I think the mystique is misleading, and anyone who has been to one or knows a lot of people who went to Ivies would say the same if they’re being honest. [/quote]

What are you babbling about?? 
We have numbers.  The fact is 1,400 is well below the 25th percentile for Dartmouth and other Ivies and highly selective schools.

I'm sure they are not too dumb, but not good enough for highly selective schools as there are plenty of 1500+ kids to choose from.

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DP.  What are *you* babbling about? Any kid with a high gpa and 1400+ on the SAT is “good enough” for an Ivy and the Dartmouth study shows the data.  Is a 1500 kid from Greenwich who went to Phillips Exeter even really “better” than a 1400 kid from an inner city school or Appalachia? They’re probably not even smarter and they’re much less likely to have the ambition and grit of the disadvantaged kid. I believe that these decisions should not be based purely on race, but I have no issue at all with schools taking into account how far kids have come considering their resources (or lack thereof). [/quote]

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