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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It seems like the vax stopped the hospital and morgue overcrowding in 2020-21. Remember when ICUs were triaging people because they ran out of beds? I think most people have antibodies from prior infections and injections protecting them somewhat now, so it doesn't seem like as big of a deal. [/quote]
Omicron is milder than the earlier strains. If you look at Society for Actuaries data, excess mortality from covid remained high all through 2021 despite the covid vaccines. It wasn't until early 2022 that excess mortality from covid fell plunged, which occurred as Omicron became the dominant strain. https://www.soa.org/4ac0fd/globalassets/assets/files/resources/experience-studies/2023/group-life-covid-mort-06-23.pdf  Page 27, Table 5.9

Omicron affects the upper respiratory system more than earlier strains, yielding far milder outcomes. All of today's circulating covid strains are Omicron variants. https://covariants.org/[/quote]

The actuary data is interesting. [b]Does this mean that the vaccines didn't save that many lives?[/b] Does it show increased deaths from non-covid? They really should do randomized trials with them. I'm not getting anymore covid vaccines because the mrna/nanoparticles are too new and didn't like the side effects from 2nd shot. Maybe novavax in the future but covid is relatively mild(the only time 1 got it in jan earlier this year) not sure I will. [/quote]
Of course, the vaccines saved lives.[/quote]

I think it's unlikely they did. Like most epidemics, enough people died or got immunity from having the virus, that it mutated and became less severe, like the flu epidemic, and likely many others. The vaccine manufacturers got lucky and used the timing to their advantage. The vast majority of the public are not getting vaccinated and there is no negative effect to this. We had epidemics come and go for millennia without vaccines. This one was no different.[/quote]

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