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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"Covid truths" like microchips and mind control 😆

The PP who thinks she's on the righteous side of truth and justice for continually yammering on about "yabut covid came from China" sounds like a master of the obvious but an absolute idiot.[/quote]

You know damn well that very few people bought into the microchips or mind control (that is a new one to me).

We do know that, among other things, Covid likely came from a lab; having the vaccine does not prevent one from spreading the virus; masks are not effective in stopping the spread of Covid; Hydroxychloroquine is associated with lower Covid mortality in a recent French study; there are side effects associated with the vaccine - myocarditis and irregular menstrual bleeding being just two; and the laptop does belong to Hunter Biden.

Many of the statements above were censored on social media - and in media in general.  [/quote]

Start here: https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Press-Release-GA-Supreme-Court-Rules-VoterGA-Petitioners-Have-Standing.pdf
Polling shows 70% of Republicans believe the "election was stolen" LIE.

It's a LIE.  And it was directly responsible for the violence of J6.  It was a violent, destructive lie that got people killed.

Stop with your LIES that "very few people believe that stuff."

Stop pretending that it's all free fair game to tell whatever lies you like no matter the consequences.  You are part of the problem.[/quote]

So, claiming that the election was stolen or illegitimate is speech that should be censored?  Is that what you are saying? [/quote]

There was very little actual censoring even going on.  The right wing freaked out over fact checks while leaving the content uncensored.  Outraged over the lies being called out.

However when there is damage, destruction, loss of life caused by a lie, those central to the lie should be held accountable.  IMHO Trump, Stone and others should be prosecuted as accessory to murder over J6.[/quote][/quote]

Dp- is fraud protected speech? [/quote]

Fraudulent statements are speech that the government can take narrowly tailored measure to prohibit & prosecute.  But an overly broad interpretation of fraud would run into 1A problems. For example a doctor posting online questioning the efficacy of the covid vaccine and paxlovid could not be prosecuted for “fraud” under an attenuated theory like that she would benefit from increased sick patients. But generally the state & federal fraud statutes require a high level of causaility and intention - so it’s going to be rare that there is a 1A issue.

this is a good summary of unprotected speech:  https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/unprotected-speech-synopsis[/quote]

Bottom line is there is no "absolute" freedom of speech as claimed upthread and there are in fact many types of speech which are illegal.  Those goal posts are already moved.

Speech directly threatening to kill or harm someone is a felony in most US jurisdictions.  So why wouldn't speech that does in fact result in someone getting killed be completely exempt and unimpeachable?  Trump's Big Lie got people killed.  Anti-vaxxer lies got people killed.

Again, we aren't talking about "you want to censor conservatives" bullshit.  Since when does being a conservative require you to tell lies that get people killed?[/quote]

Because your take on how speech “got people killed” is incredibly attenuated and is far, far from passing 1A scrutiny. [/quote]

1 million dead Americans disagree with this post.[/quote]

So, I am no longer allowed to disagree with the government health policies?

The same government that decided saturated fat was bad and a low fat, high sugar diet is fine?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9794145/

Hiow many millions has this killed?[/quote]

Seems to me that you don't understand how science works.  Maybe you are used to things like religious dogma where there are supposed eternal truths or something, and that any time something to the contrary is shown it's somehow a big lie that was orchestrated from the start?

Seems you also are confusing government with science as well.

We learn new things about nutrition all the time.  But science being science, often comes across as murky, often with seemingly conflicting and contradictory information, because most research is typically a very narrow dive into one specific thing, and doesn't step back to look at all of the other adjacent research and present that out as well, in a way that the general public can understand.  This for example is why people like you got confused about things like covid and myocarditis.  You saw a study that showed rare instances of myocarditis found in people who got vaccinated.  But then you didn't step back and look at the adjacent research that found that myocarditis was also found in unvaccinated people who got covid, and at MUCH higher rates than that of people who got vaccinated.

And either way, there have been few governmental mandates around nutrition anyhow.  And even when we did try to get people consuming more healthy foods, you shrieked and freaked out and rebelled in the most ludicrous and self-destructive ways.

[img]https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/msnbc/2013_41/20548/aptopix-conservatives-2016-jpeg-0abc0_1.jpg[/img]

So, you of all people have very little leg to stand on here.

Again, over a million Americans died because of covid, many of those deaths could have been preventable but they were killed through ignorance, lies and conspiracy theories.   Whereas, Hunter's laptop wasn't suppressed by the Biden administration, and didn't kill anyone.  [/quote]

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