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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Okay I might get the name wrong, Marlene? Ellie's mom's best friend...

Why is she telling Joel the plan to kill Ellie?  It's unrealistic. "oh, we're killing Ellie, and off you go to the side of the road to find your way back to Boston, too-duh-loo!"

It reminded me of the 60s series Batman, where the Joker  would tie Batman and Robin up and then tell them his whole diabolical plan...while Batman and Robin were cutting through the ropes.[/quote]

It has to be plain and clear in order to trigger the mass execution response that he has. It is a plot device. [/quote]

Exactly. From a scientific perspective it's really stupid- they don't need the fungus in her brain, they need whatever her body is producing in response that "fools" it. Instead of blood samples and biopsies, you take the ENTIRE LIVING SAMPLE, that isn't even the thing you need the sample of, and kill the only successful host? It's just straight up dumb. It ONLY makes sense as a plot device.

I didn't think it was much of a moral dilemma since it was such a bad plan. But I also didn't really think "doing the right thing" was the right frame, it's very consistent with Joel's character that his focus is taking care of his own. He's sympathetic but I don't think that means he's "good" or the show is trying to make that claim.[/quote]
I agree that it is a plot device.  But how about, Joel wakes up from unconciousness and overhears the plan being discussed?  I'm just saying, [b]I thought this was sloppy[/b].[/quote]

I didn't[/quote]

+1.  Seems clear to me that the Fireflies in general, and their leader in particular, are 1.  crazy; 2.  extremely self-righteous; and 3. don't have any idea what they are doing except for being violent.  Marlene seems like exactly the kind of person who might disclose what is going on to Joel because she wants (and sort of expects) his buy-in, but also has a cruel streak and on some level wanted to hurt him.  So it kind of rang reasonably true to me given the context; it wasn't like Auric Goldfinger wandering off while his attempted execution of James Bond was in progress.    Yes, it was stupid of Marlene to tell him, but the Fireflies have been stupid and crazy from the beginning. [/quote]

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