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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't quite get the argument that everything that has been in the press that isn't positive was made up by the press.

Sure trash tabloids make things up. But in the says after the Spanish book release, there were countless journalists who actually had their hands on copies of the book  and reported similar stories.  It would have had to be a massive coordinated effort for all journalists during that time period to agree and come up with all the fake stories and fake quotes. Jounralists like a scoop, why would they agree to wait until other agencies created a fake story when they had a copy of the book?

For example, the conversation between Kate and Meghan about the dresses. If that was just made up by the press and wasn't in the book, there would have been some journos refuse to pretend to read a fake story from the book just to stick to the party line. There just isn't that kind of mass collaboration and camaraderie across all press sources for it all to have been an orchestrated fake campaign. [/quote]

Part of the issue after the Spanish version released early was that journalists were sticking passages into translation apps and then reporting the translations as accurate, when in fact they mischaracterized the book in certain respects.  It doesn’t take a lot of mistranslation to totally change the tone of an anecdote. [/quote]

The stories I saw were about

Harry losing his virginity

Harry being pushed onto a dog food bowl by his brother

Harry talking to his dad to get him to not marry Camilla

Harry getting mad William  didn't come away with him before his wedding and a story about his penis freezing before William's wedding

Stories of Meghan wearing jeans and to being hugged by Kate, a conversation between Kate and Meghan about flowergirl dresses, and  William and Kate being awed by Meghan being in Suits

Harry now having found Meghan on instagram and started dating that way and Meghan knowing nothing about the RF

Harry talking about Meghan being magical and him swimming with seals.

William and Kate laughing / supporting the Nazi outfit

Harry killing 25 Taliban

I have a hard time believing that none of that was actually in the book and that it was all made up by journalists.  I haven't read the book but the BBC and reuters and others were commenting on these stories so when people on here say it was all lies and if you read he book you would know that none of that is even in it...I find that hard to believe. 
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And what did you hear about them?  The story about losing his virginity came across as far more sordid in the translation than in the English language original.  Similarly, people made out the part about his penis frostbite and the Elizabeth Arden cream to be some erotic thing about his mother, when in reality a friend had recommended a specific cream to him to treat the frostbite that was the same as his mother had used, and he basically said the smell reminded him of her when he opened it so the experience was kind of weird but he dealt with it and moved on.  The real focus on the frostbite anecdote was the challenges of getting medical care for the problem discreetly because he didn’t trust that it wouldn’t end up in the tabloids if he went through the usual staff channels to make an appointment.[/quote]

People also spun the 25 kills thing in weird ways.  He said that most soldiers can’t really track their kill numbers because they happen in things like firefights where you don’t know for sure, but because of the nature of the Apache work he did during the tours, he actually did know his number.  He said he felt it was important to know the number for accountability rather than live in willful ignorance, and that he was neither ashamed nor proud of it.  What do you think is problematic about that anecdote?[/quote]

It's incredibly problematic.

https://apnews.com/article/prince-harry-afghanistan-service-claims-1c497d35a8211dc0366429856a539e2a

And yes, after criticism, he responded defensively.  Instead of apologizing for doing the wrong thing.  [/quote]

And that article reflects exactly the issue with using translated snippets (which is was since it misquotes the book).  Harry said those things in reflecting on how he was trained to think about war, the detachment it required, which he states in the book is problematic.  You really think it’s a bad thing for someone who fought in a war to reflect on the experience and recognize the ways in which it was troubling?[/quote]

No, keeping count is exactly what the military is trained not to do.  For several different reasons, all of which Harry either missed or disagrees with.  [/quote]

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