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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I haven’t read the whole thread, but what I have heard makes sense. His geographic location was in the crossroads of east and west. He most likely was exposed to eastern philosophy, think India at the time. If he had lived in a different time perhaps he would have become a philosopher like Karl Marx or Kiergegaard. He certainly upset the status quo by becoming a reformist like Martin Luther. His death was not that unusual, plenty of people were crucified and continued to be for a long time [/quote] Jesus was also exposed to Greco-Roman philosophy because they ruled the Middle East in his time. [/quote] No, only the most wealthy Jews were exposed to Greco Roman scholarship. It’s possible that Paul and Matthew had been exposed to such teaching, but Jesus would have received only traditional Jewish teaching. Exposure to Greco Roman mythology would explain why Matthew, and only Matthew, described a Virgin Birth. The idea of God impregnating a human woman was common in Greco Roman mythology. Such an idea would be repulsive to Jews. [/quote] Isaiah 7:14 (Jewish) prophesied a virgin birth. “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” If she was a virgin, the impregnation must have been supernatural. No need to fall back in Greco-Roman mythology. [/quote] Jews were teaching their children Hebrew centuries, millennia in fact, before Israel was founded. Even Hasidic Jews who oppose the existence of Israel study Hebrew. Wrong. Isaiah never said that. That’s a Christian mistranslation. The Hebrew word is “alma.” “Alma” means young woman,” not “virgin.”[/quote] What other words are mistranslated by Christians, in your view?[/quote] How much time have you got? There’s a reason that Jews teach their children to read the Bible in the original and Christians do not. [/quote] Christians who want to take their understanding to a new level study Koine Greek, Aramaic and maybe Hebrew if they’re going for a doctorate or something No, they don’t teach their children Hebrew so they can learn about God slaughtering Canaanites and teenagers taunting bald guys in the original. Koine Greek and Aramaic would be the languages taught, if any. [/quote] You say Christians would study Aramaic and “maybe Hebrew”? The New Testament has one phrase in Aramaic where Jesus quotes Psalm 22 (originally written in Hebrew): “Eloi Eloi lama sabachthani?” Mark 15:34. Matthew quotes it in the original Hebrew: “Eli Eli lema sabachthani?” Matthew 27:46. Why “Aramaic and maybe Hebrew”? Moreover, you say Christians don’t teach their children Hebrew so they don’t have to read about God killing people. So why don’t adult Christians learn Hebrew? Is the Old Testament not the word of God? Why isn’t koine Greek taught to Christians as a matter of course as Hebrew is taught to Jewish children?[/quote] You’re asking Christians to teach their kids two languages, koine Greek and Hebrew? Really? Hebrew is still spoken in its modern form, it’s Israel’s state language, and it’s a large part of Jewish identity. Not so for Christians. As you know. [/quote][/quote]
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