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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If it is normal on movie sets to point guns at people and pull the trigger, I think that needs to change. It's not a safe practice.  [/quote]

So ... you've never seen a movie.  [/quote]

I have confidence that they can figure out how to have guns in movies without pointing them at cast and crew.  [/quote]

There are literally cast and crew surrounding the actors in a 360 degree production to get good angles, filming, and lighting on all side. You could point a gun behind you and hit someone.

The problem is someone brought live ammunition on set and someone else was too stupid to be handling a gun in the first place.

Usually Hollywood films, and only union films are allowed in California (notice this one was filmed in New Mexico), has two armourers on set. The Armourer loads the weapon and checks it. Then Head Armourer re-checks the magazine and ensures its say.

For some reason only known to the production team, of which Alec was lead Producer, they hired a 24-year-old who couldn't tell a blank from a live.

And that cost a woman her life.[/quote]

Lots of inaccurate details here.

On a film set, a blank is considered a “live round”. A gun loaded with blanks is considered a hot gun. Because blanks can kill people. So can anything lodged anywhere in a gun, including debris from the gun having been fired previously. That’s why cleaning a gun after every use is such an important safety step, and why triple checks of guns on set is standard.

When reports say the gun had a “live round”, they are talking about a blank. Film sets are not even allowed to have actual bullet-tipped ammo on set, and even with blanks there are levels (1/2, 1/4, etc.) and the highest level is more restricted and requires greater on-set precautions.

So no, the issue here is not that someone didn’t know a blank from a live round. Blanks ARE live rounds. The issue is that a gun was handed to an actor with something inside it, and reportedly called a “cold gun” (ie an unloaded weapon that has been triple checked to be empty). It’s also an issue that a real gun, instead of a rubber gun, was used during a rehearsal. Standard protocol is that actors only handle real guns (a prop gun is a real gun) for as little time as possible, during the actual filming of the shot. [b]It’s also an issue that an AD handed Baldwin the gun— only an armorer or prop master should be handling the gun, and only after performing required checks. The AD likely did not check the gun, and is not qualified to do so anyway. [/b]

Plus you have the issues with a camera crew walking off the set because of unsafe conditions that included 12-14 hr workdays with insufficient breaks or time off.

This was an unsafe set with non-Union workers who were being asked to work long hours under unsafe conditions. Corners were being cut for financial reasons. And someone died. This is a management issue and everyone in a position of authority on that set (including Baldwin, who as stated and co-producer was absolutely in a position of authority) bears some responsibility for this woman’s death.[/quote]

The AD handed Baldwin the gun because the idiot armourer handed it to him.
[b]
The 24-year-old armorer who worked on Rust gave a child actress a gun without checking it on a previous film set, two production sources who worked with her said.

The two sources told The Daily Beast that Hannah Gutierrez-Reed had allegedly given an 11-year-old actress a gun without checking it properly while on the set of the Nicholas Cage film, The Old Way.

'There were a couple times she was loading the blanks and doing it in a fashion that we thought was unsafe,' one of the sources said.[/b]

[img]https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/10/24/02/49533357-10124421-Hannah_Gutierrez_Reed_was_described_as_inexperienced_and_green-m-15_1635038698568.jpg[/img][/quote]

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