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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Man oh jeez can we get some nuance in discussing the issue of the unvaccinated poor Black people in  Ward 7 and 8?  [/quote]

[b]I was just looking at the data on this and the issue is not really adults in those wards,[/b] but younger people (especially children). Less than 10% of the 12-15 year olds in those wards are vaccinated. They are over 50% for the 50 year olds and up. Most of the city is doing poorly for 17 year olds and under. The problems that schools are going to face are not unvaccinated teachers, but unvaccinated students.

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Is this a joke? Look at the numbers. 33 percent of Ward 8 residents ages 18 and above are fully vaccinated. That's horrendous. That's lower than the vaccination rates in places like Louisiana and Mississippi. And it comes despite all the efforts of the city to get people there vaccinated. Kids are not the problem here. It's adults. All the evidence is that teachers are a far bigger danger to kids in schools than kids are to teachers. [/quote]

The numbers at the lower end of the age span are prejudicing the stats. Did you read my entire post? There is a real drop off below 30 but especially over 50 they are doing much better. Also, why are you comparing two wards to entire states? I am sure there are pockets of those states that are lower than the two wards.

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Kids aren't the problem here.

Just look at the numbers -- there aren't even that many people in Washington D.C. between the ages of 12 and 17. There's about 35,000 of them. The vaccination rates for them range from 8 percent in Ward 8 to 57 percent in Ward 3. Across all wards, the average is 32 percent. That means there's about 22,000 unvaccinated kids.

Now look at adults. There's roughly 580,000 people who are at least 18 years old. 35 percent of them aren't vaccinated. That means there's 203,000 adults who aren't vaccinated.

What you're saying is ignore the 203,000 adults who aren't vaccinated, and focus on the 22,000 kids who aren't vaccinated. That makes no sense (and all of that is putting aside the fact that some pediatricians don't even recommend kids get vaccinated).

Adults are the problem.

Also, Wards 7 and 8 aren't pockets. They comprise almost one-quarter of the city's population. [/quote]

I don’t know why you have decided that you need to argue everything to the death regardless of how ridiculous you get, but I guess that it is good that you are no longer arguing that the WTU opposes a mandate. While you were doing the math for your post, [b]did you stop to think which age group will be in our schools? This is a schools forum after all.[/b] So few children, yet all of them will be in school.

Do you really believe that two wards in DC are comparable to two states? Use your math on that and see where it gets you. 
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Well, actually, scientists have consistently found, throughout the pandemic, that schools have far lower coronavirus transmission rates than the surrounding communities. If you're somewhere where there's a lot of coronavirus, it turns out that schools are about the safest places you can be.

Also, not to point out the obvious, but kids and teachers and school staffs interact with adults outside their schools all the time so, yes, the fact that there is a huge number of unvaccinated adults in the area does matter, even if those people themselves don't physically step into a school. [/quote]

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