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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Those are actual, legit humans. I'm disturbed by how the rightwing is trying to de-humanize the existence of such individuals. It's become their violent rally cry.[/quote]

Of course, they are.  Although, we really do not know how many there are. I suspect it is fewer than Wikipedia posting says.  But, that is not necessarily the case in the instances we are discussing.

We are discussing people who identify with something different than that with which they were born.   And, children should not be changing sexes.  There are children who are born with "different" genitalia, but that is rare.  In those cases, hormones and surgery may be advisable when they are young.  But, that is rare.

And, biological males in girl's sports is a bad idea.  If you choose to identify differently, you may have to give up some things.  All kids do not make the team, and it is unfair to deny young women a spot on a team because a competitor was born male.

They've denied Olympic athletes in the past because women were taking testosterone.  So, how is this right?  [/quote]

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I think politicians should leave this to individuals, families, and doctors to figure out. It's way too personal. Not only are there potentially chromosomal issues at play, but also hormonal/chemical imbalances. For example, someone with male sex organs may have hormonal imbalances to such an extent that they can physically appear female within the context of the gender norms in their culture (eg, lack of body hair, development of breasts due to high estrogen, etc.)

How should such a person "identify" if they really don't fit into their culture's idea of what a man (or woman) should look like, through no fault of their own? Why do you feel the need to regulate that person and their identity?

The problem with MGT - and the rightwing's obsession with gender - is that people don't fit into neat boxes. Science is messy. Identity is messy. Culture is messy. But I guess only a conservative fails to see shades of grey. It's why they identify as conservative.[/quote]

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