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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Another point about Daphne and Simon and the infamous scene - at this point in history, marriage was very much a “contract.”  Children were expected.  Simon did indeed misrepresent himself when he told Daphne he “couldn’t” have children.  When she finally figured out that he simply *wasn’t* going to have children, she realized that it was his DUTY to do so, and that as his wife, she deserved children.  In that context, I found it perfectly understandable that she did what she did.  Of course, nowadays, that’s considered tricking/trapping the man, etc.  But at the time, she was fully entitled to children by her husband.[/quote]

Having a boy would have cemented her financial security in the event of Simon's death, I think -- I guess Daphne had her dowry put away for her, but typically the wife lived on the estate of the husband or son, and didn't get much (if anything) if the husband died without an heir.  And not having kids would have harmed her social standing.  Neither of those comes up on the story, though.

I read somewhere that the author didn't consider it a rape scene when she wrote it (what, 20 years ago?), I'm guessing because he's a guy.  Interestingly my DH is Team Daphne as far as her doing what she did.  I think the stupidity of Simon's reasons makes us more forgiving toward Daphne.

I was not okay with it because there were so many non-rape ways to accomplish the same plot point.  She could have asked him why he was pulling out and received an honest answer.  They could have a pregnancy scare (pulling out is hardly foolproof) leading her to find out he knows he can have kids.  She could know the basics of sex -- or, say, see a couple of animals doing it -- and realize the import of him pulling out.  Any of those would have led to them being mad at each other, without rape.[/quote]

Oh, good grief.  There was no “rape.”  None.   :roll: [/quote]

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