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Who is being "systemically oppressed due to their menstruation" in the US in 2020?

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You do not know enough about women's issues to be telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/education/2018/08/14/lack-feminine-hygiene-products-keeps-girls-out-school/948313002/

https://www.nursing.upenn.edu/live/news/1545-the-state-of-period-poverty-in-the-us

https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2019/02/jail-california-tampons-menstruation-paula-canny-sanitary-pads/

https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/111219-sj-periodequity.pdf

https://time.com/3989966/america-menstrual-crisis/[/quote]

Great links, and in addition, diseases like PCOS and endometriosis are woefully under researched. I have PCOS and the only solution I’ve ever been given is “Take birth control until you want kids, then hope your pregnancy cures PCOS.” No cure for people who never want kids. Other women are given diabetes medicine as if it’s the same thing, even though a significant % of PCOS Sufferers like myself have no insulin resistance.

One positive of being forced to abandon the word women — if periods are seen as something for males maybe some research money will actually flow our way![/quote]

Menstruation is used to oppress women in countries all over the world along with genital mutilation! although, I don't really think this was what Rowling was getting at, but I think being pro-women does not mean anti-trans and support what she was trying to say![/quote]

I'm sure all "people who menstruate" and "people at risk of genital mutilation" (including many here in the US!) would all benefit from inclusive advocacy.

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Listen, I'm sure you're going to be particularly displeased by this response but I believe that this specific advocacy is actually in trans women's best interest. Trans women have SPECIFIC things that need to be advocated for. For example, trans women need to be clear with their doctors about their history because they have prostates and trans women are at a high risk of prostate cancer going undiagnosed if they do not communicate clearly their medical history.

Trans men can present as pregnant or skip ovarian and cervical cancer screenings for the same reason. The stigma towards trans women that results in them being sexually assaulted at higher rates deserves to be addressed, specifically.

Trans women do not get periods at age 12. They do not have get pregnant, they do not get cramps, endometriosis, PCOS, TSS, ovarian cancer, cervical cancer, yeast infections, HPV and other complications that come from having a period. These are very important events in a teenage girl's life. It is something that women of childbearing age have to be CONSTANTLY aware of as they progress through life, lest they get pregnant and have to take care of a baby when the man walks away leaving them scott free. Your anatomy and genitalia are IMPORTANT in the context of advocating for health and health advocacy.

These teenage girls do not need to have access to hormone therapies, they don't need access to mental health professionals and doctors to guide them through a difficult identity transition. And neither group is doing anything wrong there, but they need DIFFERENT THINGS. And to me, they both deserve dedicated movements designed to advocate for them.

I do not care if a trans woman calls themselves a woman. I will call them she/her and whatever name they have chosen. I will treat them like a woman. I will advocate for trans men and their specific health needs. I will call them him/he and I will treat them like a man. But I am not going to alter language to make it more confusing to the general public and world to advocate for specific health needs. The same language they themselves use to describe their own dysphoria. Because it is a real and tangible difference to be distinguished. [/quote]

So you *could* say “people who menstruate” to cover all of the issues and concerns you mention, but you don’t because you think it’s....too confusing?

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I think that people who have specific needs should have those needs specifically advocated for. And I think the general public doesn't have a degree in women and gender studies and yes, has a difficult time understanding all this. Which doesn't mean I don't understand it, but I do understand that when we get SPECIFIC advocacy, it is more effective (ie BLM).

And to be clear, I think that trans men who menstruate have different gynecological needs than women. And when that is not the case, in the beginning of their journey and part of their transition, than they are still, biologically, women who need to have women's healthcare professionals. As they transition, they need to find healthcare that specializes in trans men as there are effects from hormones and surgery that significantly change their health needs.

As I've said repeatedly, this is a ven diagram.

I also think that, unlike you, I'm capable of having a civil and rational conversation without using sarcastic emojis. [/quote]

“People who menstruate” is not confusing at all. Your specificity excludes people who want to be included. You are creating unnecessary and harmful barriers.

And the eye roll wasn’t sarcastic. 
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DP.  "People who menstruate" isn't confusing but it is dehumanizing and can be insulting.  The reason to use the more inclusive language is to be inclusive, not insulting. So maybe more work needs to be done.

Or cis women need to just sit down and accept being insulted.[/quote]

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