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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If fertilized embryo is a person bye bye IVF.
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This would make an incredible sci-fi movie plot... Alt Right government takes over all IVF clinics and orders EVERY SINGLE FROZEN EMBRYO brought to life using surrogates. These children are raised in a government-military esq compound and used as weapons for the alt right as "savior babies".[/quote]

Seriously, this is relevant. If people really want to base a "right to life" on "being a person" AND hold that an embryo is a person, then those frozen embryos have exactly as much right to life.[/quote]

No, they don't. As any reasonable person with an understanding of basic biology (not many people in this discussion, unfortunately) knows, it takes three things to create life: A sperm, an Egg and a Host in which to grow the life. "Frozen Embryos" do not have a host to give them life.[/quote]

Any person who knows anything about biology knows that a 4 week old cluster of cells isn't "a human" who can be murdered and yet this foolish argument is brought up in every abortion argument. [/quote]
Exactly when does the little life get to be termed "human" in your book?[/quote]

Maybe when it has limbs and actually appears humanoid. Maybe when it's viable outside of the mothers body around 23-24 weeks. It's not up to me. If a woman finds out she's 6 weeks along and can't sustain a pregnancy or support a life, she has the choice and the right to terminate that pregnancy. Its baffling to me how you people think a literal lump of cells and tissue has more rights than a grown living human woman. [/quote]
Maybe answer the question.[/quote]

I just did, fool, with the caveat it isn't up to me. If the baby cannot live outside of its mother, then it's not "viable life" to me. But I don't make the rules and someone else's definition may be different. Everyone's personal cutoff for that is theirs and the law allows for abortions to take place until 20 weeks because the fetus IS NOT VIABLE before then (and not terribly viable for many weeks after). [/quote]

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