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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am tired though of hearing people call a baby that can be delivered alive at 20 weeks a fetus. Come on..you know it is a baby.[/quote]

20 weeks is well before viability. There is no -- and I mean, absolutely no case, ever, worldwide -- 20 week old fetus that was delivered at that gestational age and survived.

If you do not know this basic fact, you have no business expressing your "tired of hearing opinions" on a message board.

Have you cared for a 22/23-week preemie infant? I have. Dating is hard at that age. Life is even harder.

It was my responsibility to rub nitroglycerin into the toes that were going gangrenous from the umbilical line. 357 grams. Tinier than my hand, and the skin was shredding off under my fingers. We finally [i]made[/i] the parents be there for cares, so they could see what was happening from what they insisted we do for this creature. They didn't want to have to see it, just know that "we did everything possible." Thank you for making me a torturer so your conscience is soothed.

A 22 weeker is much different than a 24 weeker, and is much more different than 26 weeks. 20 weeks is far outside the pale, and yeah, it's a fetus, not a baby.

You know what I am fucking tired of? I am tired of people expressing opinions without bothering to check their facts. If this is so important to you, then you'd get the facts of the matter straight.[/quote]
Can you get another job?[/quote]

I hope she doesn't. These NICU nurses and medical professionals are amazing people who deal with things you can't possibly imagine. I have a good friend who has worked in the NICU for years and you can't believe the things she has seen.  And importantly, these people can legitimately and without agenda tell the truth about the biology of these children/fetuses/whatever label you want to give.  Correcting the bullshit opinions passed off as fact. I thank her for that and everything she does.[/quote]

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